lateral raises

[Secret of Steel]

Waste of time when trying to build sheer shoulder size, or no? I definitely would like to have a wider appearance, but I'm wondering whether I should just put my energy into more overhead presssing. Or, god forbid, wide grip upright rows.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Waste of time when trying to build sheer shoulder size, or no? I definitely would like to have a wider appearance, but I'm wondering whether I should just put my energy into more overhead presssing. Or, god forbid, wide grip upright rows.

Waste of time?!?! Fuck no!! If you want those side delts to pop you better be doing side lateral raises religiously..

Grab the 55's for 12 reps, put them back, 45's for 12, then 35's, 25's.. Crazy drop set.. Obviously you don't have to go that high but you get the idea.

 

[MindlessWork]

Waste of time?!?! Fuck no!! If you want those side delts to pop you better be doing side lateral raises religiously..

Grab the 55's for 12 reps, put them back, 45's for 12, then 35's, 25's.. Crazy drop set.. Obviously you don't have to go that high but you get the idea.

I should try doing side laterals more often and in the way you describe. My max weight on sides lately been 25lbs but hopefully over time I'll get it to 40lbs. Will be hard as I injured my left RC because of some dumb idiot bumped me while db pressing.

 

[ErikR]

Drop sets for delts are very effective. And fucus on working your muscle and not go so heavy that your using momentum.

 

[ErikR]

Side lateral raises.

 

[Mayne]

Google diamonddelts on bb.com. He has 2 great delt posts and routines, lateral raises are key width exercise, width is key aesthetics factor, you get the picture lol

 

[MindlessWork]

Drop sets for delts are very effective. And fucus on working your muscle and not go so heavy that your using momentum.

+1 to that, I use 20lbs as a working set myself

 

[MindlessWork]

+1 to that, I use 20lbs as a working set myself

To add to my post I find using weight over 25lbs for laterals tends to kill my shoulders, especially my rotators considering I damaged my left one a few years ago because of some idiot bumping me while I was pressing 110lb db's then losing control of them because of it.

 

[Ozzy619]

Waste of time when trying to build sheer shoulder size, or no? I definitely would like to have a wider appearance, but I'm wondering whether I should just put my energy into more overhead presssing. Or, god forbid, wide grip upright rows.

I used to think oh press was the key too, fuck no, like johnny said lateral raises will pop your shit out. I superset, dropset and repeat till I cant lift my arms. I do my own variation on shoulder bombs and its popping out the anterior delts too. Also, since Ive been hitting posterior more Ive noticed a drastic difference in sheer size.

 

[MindlessWork]

I used to think oh press was the key too, fuck no, like johnny said lateral raises will pop your shit out. I superset, dropset and repeat till I cant lift my arms. I do my own variation on shoulder bombs and its popping out the anterior delts too. Also, since Ive been hitting posterior more Ive noticed a drastic difference in sheer size.

Seated OHP's work quite well along with seated lateral raises, so you can do both exercises while seated...saves time.

 

[Ozzy619]

To add to my post I find using weight over 25lbs for laterals tends to kill my shoulders, especially my rotators considering I damaged my left one a few years ago because of some idiot bumping me while I was pressing 110lb db's then losing control of them because of it.

Try doing light face pulls, helps build up your rotator cuff

 

[Ozzy619]

Seated OHP's work quite well

I still do them as well as arnolds but it wasnt till I did more raises that I noticed a huge difference. I use to be all about the ohp

 

[MindlessWork]

Try doing light face pulls, helps build up your rotator cuff

Thanks, I do facepulls so I will try backing off the weight a bit on those and see how my shoulders fare.

 

[MindlessWork]

I still do them as well as arnolds but it wasnt till I did more raises that I noticed a huge difference. I use to be all about the ohp

I've done Arnolds too and those are great for a blast at the end of the superset of seated OHP's and seated laterals. I'll be making some adjustments to help protect my rotators from injury considering how close I came to tearing my left RC before.

 

[Ozzy619]

Thanks, I do facepulls so I will try backing off the weight a bit on those and see how my shoulders fare.

Shit you must have done a number, I was having problems before and they have helped me tremendously.

I noticed I was doing a lot more pushing movements than pulling so the lack of development eventually caught up to me. I got honest with myself and starting implementing alot more pulls and have noticed alot less pain.

 

[MindlessWork]

Shit you must have done a number, I was having problems before and they have helped me tremendously.

I noticed I was doing a lot more pushing movements than pulling so the lack of development eventually caught up to me. I got honest with myself and starting implementing alot more pulls and have noticed alot less pain.

Ya, I must have been putting too much stress on my shoulders perhaps.

For facepulls I've been using 60lbs on the cable pull machine and putting the pulley at neck height so I do them standing using a rope handle with the rubber nubs on the ends.

 

[Manny]

To add to my post I find using weight over 25lbs for laterals tends to kill my shoulders, especially my rotators considering I damaged my left one a few years ago because of some idiot bumping me while I was pressing 110lb db's then losing control of them because of it.

Did you stuff that fucking weight down his throat? ? Had a guy almost drop a 25 lb weight on my head. Yes, I'm short but seriously man. I told him he was a fucking idiot and he needs to watch out what the hell he is doing. Old man said this "there wasn't anything I could do, it was falling." He had stacked the weights on the smith machine all the way to the end of the weight holder. Fucking clown. Anyways, rotator cuffs are cunt. Both of mine are fucked and have to be careful. Still making progress though.

 

[MindlessWork]

Did you stuff that fucking weight down his throat? ? Had a guy almost drop a 25 lb weight on my head. Yes, I'm short but seriously man. I told him he was a fucking idiot and he needs to watch out what the hell he is doing. Old man said this "there wasn't anything I could do, it was falling." He had stacked the weights on the smith machine all the way to the end of the weight holder. Fucking clown. Anyways, rotator cuffs are cunt. Both of mine are fucked and have to be careful. Still making progress though.

LOL, ya I was raging at the dumb kid despite being in a lot of pain then. Took me 4 months to recover from that injury before I could press again without pain. Right now I do more for reps than weight so 25lbs is max (for me) for laterals.

 

[insertnamehere]

Waste of time when trying to build sheer shoulder size, or no? I definitely would like to have a wider appearance, but I'm wondering whether I should just put my energy into more overhead presssing. Or, god forbid, wide grip upright rows.

I think you should put time into both OHP and side laterals for wide shoulders. I would have a mix of standing strict OHP with BB, sitting OHP with DB, and side lateral lifts with DB.

When I do the sitting OHP with DB, I use one arm at a time, use a bench with no back support, and I don't hold on with the other hand. I line the DB up with my ear and perform the exercise without leaning back and without holding on. This method works on core and shoulder stability as well as muscle development. Try it out sometime.

 

[insertnamehere]

Oh and no leaning to one side to support the weight. Stay upright and solid.