say what? I hope you have some scientific data sources to substantiate these claims..
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Leaving vials in my car
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Yep I have plenty of "Scientific Data" to prove my point. I have put syringes in my car to give to a friend also prescribed TRT to which the normal daily heat of the car just destroyed the syringe packaging in no time at all.. The printed labeling on BD brand syringes even starts to fade and soil. Most particularly, the glue sealing the top of the syringe packaging fails first and they come open just sitting there. My CONTROL GROUP is the ones remaining at home in my drawer in the climate controlled environment - That is - if you want to get "Scientific"...
In terms of HEAT causing the expansion of gasses and liquids in a vial this is a no brainer. The pressure increase associated with increased temperature will challenge the finest of vial sealing methods. You haphazardly lie a vial on its side, heat it up, and the liquid oil portion is going to sneak out of the stopper. Its just a piece of rubber loosely held down with a metal crimped top.
These are not "Claims". It's experience over the years of witnessing folks who kept BOTH UGL as well as PHARMA grade testosterones in their cars. It should be noted that there are so fuking many companies out there producing testosterone suspensions for injection these days, that there are a significant amount of "Pharma grade" products out there now that are very poorly contrived... I never went looking to find or prove a point. These issues came to me as questions and inquiries as to what they should do when this happens. My advice was always - "don't be a dumbass and leave in in you car - THE DIRECTIONS indicate to store at ROOM TEMPERATURE".... That in itself is ALL THE PROOF you should require...
OR.... DO you think that some jackass with a hand-held bottle cap crimper and batch of generic vials, rubber stops, and metal caps from God knows where is going to create a "Hermetically sealed" condition? Or was it that you thought that some super-cheap-fly-by-night underground garage base asshole who DOES BUY professionally manufactured vials, yet pokes them with an 18ga pin to fill them with no cap ever involved is not going to just pour out that perforated initial fill-hole created when cramming his cheap ass pot cooked solution in there when the car heat is applied...
There is no need to get "Scientific" on this matter. Its just a statement of WHAT IS...
And if you are referring to my description of the action of the "Plasticizers" involved.. Just research the (7) primary grades of plastics and the common denominator you will find is that the softer the plastic, the nastier it is. Molecularly speaking. Even Kentwood water jugs are IRONICALLY COMPRISED of BPA's, due to if they were not,,,, the plastic jug would be too brittle and crack all the time during normal delivery and handling... Ever seen a milk jug SPLIT? They dont stretch. That's because they are more brittle as a matter of chemical safety...
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Jesus fuck you type a lot just to say “ no I have no legitimate scientific sources to cite for this shit I’ve just spewed”
NO - I said it happens and no science is needed to prove it... Lets not change my language and intent...
Science is needed to prove everything, sorry my ignorant friend. (I mean that in the most direct meaning of the word, and not in an insulting way, unless you just take offence to it anyways, in which case oops.)
No I understand your conversational intent and no offense is taken.
You will find that I have a history of challenging "Science" precisely because of the fact the it is often vailed in false or improper premise as a front for deceptive information. Simply put, there is not a single scientific study ever conducted that did not have someone PAYING FOR the research. Statistically speaking, that person paying has a vested interest. That interest feeds other mouths too. All the makings of "conspiracy"... Even and more often, UNIVERSITIES are driven by financial factors that corrupt even the most neutral environments conceivable.
In short, Science has become a RIGGED GAME.. Like it or not...
I can agree with that to an extent, for sure.
Methyl Mike
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Foolish advice. State troopers love to search vehicles looking for dope. A jacked or semi jacked looking bodybuilder is as good a target as any.
My opinion is do not take chances.
bigpoppachump2
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I stand by it. In my past life as a contractor I had a lot of friends who were cops and a couple were NJ state troopers. Unless they had prior knowledge that you were moving a large quantity or suspicions of drug trafficking they were NOT going to remove a whole house worth of furniture and boxes for the off chance that they could bring you in for a couple bottles of gear lol. To suggest otherwise is kinda funny
Methyl Mike
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I never implied they would be looking for steroids.
"State troopers love to search vehicles looking for dope. A jacked or semi jacked looking bodybuilder is as good a target as any"
Also my opinion is not to take unnecessary chances if you don't have to.
If it were me I would mail it to myself but thats me.
bigpoppachump2
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That is probably safer but for reasons I'd rather not talk about I've become more suspicious of the post office as of late.
Methyl Mike
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I'm sure I know what you are talking about.
You're probably right.
I've just been in the receiving end of bullshit too many times. I learned not to take chances if I can help it.
Case in point- one night I went to score in a particularly cop infested area not known for drugs but known for cops who were generally um more avoidable than most.
I had a nice car it was 10pm not super late my tags license all clean.
I hid my sack in the emergency brake boot in such a way it basically rested on top.of transmission. If you didn't own a cR like mine (Toyota solara) you would never be aware of the exact spot.
As I'm driving (alone btw) I see a black and white coming toward me on the other side of the road. He flips around once he passes me and pulls me over.
My drivers side headlight went out AS HE WAS PASSING ME and he just had to write me a ticket. He calls for backup and suddenly 3 or 4 more of them are on the scene.
He tells.me point blank he thinks I have drugs in the car to which I said no sir. He asks for consent and I realized being under the influence (i don't think he could tell at that point, i had passed quite a few field sobriety tests much more high than I was at the time. I blame.shitty coke. It was awful.) I was taking a big risk passing him off or.axting like I had something to hide. Also these are the cops you try to avoid because they will almost always take defiance as a call to.arms and get k9s out there check my blood at the hospital (claiming probable cause) whatever they can get away with.
For an hour 4 of them ripped my car apart throwing my floor mats out every cd I had they tossed my car like a jail cell.
Didnt find shit.
Moral of the story its easy too easy to get comfortable. Hey I had no warrants clean license and insurance my lights worked (when I left my connects) one would easily say its almost impossible that I could get searched. Throw the sack.in your pocket. You know how the story would have ended.
Just my .02$
Whatever can go wrong often does.
bigpoppachump2
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I wholly 100% know what you mean. I got pulled over in my work van one day on my way to a job site in North Jersey and the cop used the "I smell burnt Marijuana coming form your vehicle, can I have your consent to search?" I gave him the nod cause it was actually the owners work truck as mine was in the shop and I didn't smoke weed at the time. He was the type of cop that probably pulled that shit a half dozen times that week and probably got lucky once or twice which in his mind justifies this bullshit tactic.
If you look in the steroid news forum you'll see a lot of one in a million luck of the draw chance busts and sometimes they are major busts too.
Dude ran a red light got searched and uncovers large operation because he was transporting something from a PO box to his home.
Dude gets in fight with girl leaves house takes nap in car gets searched, find a few dozen bottles then search warrant and his pad gets raided to find a major brewing Op.
Recently that poor school teacher chick who got busted by texts that some one else entirely had on their phone which the cops searched investigating a domestic violence case and those texts pointed to her dn steroid sales. All because some dick didn't delete his texts.
I'd say half the labs busted are busted because of luck and chance happenings not actual police work.
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Methyl Mike
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Exactly. Its the law of averages thats always working against us. We have to be 100 % all the time, they just need to get lucky that one time....so they try and try and try and eventually they get lucky. The best we can do is use what we have control over. My shit stays home period. I have seen guys driving around with gear in their gym bag and shit. Oh the law says you can't be searched just because they want to.
Oh yes you can.
Judges are very forgiving to officers who break the rules as long as they get what they were looking for.
And I will be very honest about something, when I do break the law in my mind I already know what will happen and how much time I will get. It won't be great, but jail isn't THAT bad. Prison is even better you get better food a television i think some video games.
I hope everyone else does the same. Don't do the crime if you cannot honestly do the time. Because if you take this shit seriously, not expecting sunshine and clear skies but knowing and being ready to go down, chances are you will be safer and make smarter choices. And that counts.
Getting off the soap.box....
Oh yes you can.
Judges are very forgiving to officers who break the rules as long as they get what they were looking for.
And I will be very honest about something, when I do break the law in my mind I already know what will happen and how much time I will get. It won't be great, but jail isn't THAT bad. Prison is even better you get better food a television i think some video games.
I hope everyone else does the same. Don't do the crime if you cannot honestly do the time. Because if you take this shit seriously, not expecting sunshine and clear skies but knowing and being ready to go down, chances are you will be safer and make smarter choices. And that counts.
Getting off the soap.box....
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bigpoppachump2
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And btw I didn't mean "Chocolate" teacher lol. Frigging auto correct trying to paint me as a racist
Methyl Mike
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My phone is killing me with auto correct shenanigans
