leg press or squat? important question

[mxim]

i am going to include an AAS question as well so this post does'nt get moved to the training forum that nobody reads. why would squatting result in bet leg muscle growth opposed to leg presses;i am assuming that both exercises are done with proper form. i always hear squats are better and believe me,they work.i used to squat heavy and hard back in the day but my lower back is in bad shape so leg presses are the only thing i can do.
as for juice,be careful with orals as they alter your cholesterol negatively.more so than injectables.
mxim

 

[MANWHORE]

Yeah Yeah who needs cholesterol anyway .... Alot of people will tell you squats are MAGIC but they never say why .. they probably don't have an answer either ... When doing Squats you stimulate your nervous system more because your moving your body through space and stimulation of the nervous systems is what causes strength increases and with strength comes size ?? Who knows .... You can build strength and size with legpresses also. It all comes down to genetics. Some guys never squat and build big muscular legs and some guys squat and barely get any size. legpresses just can't do what squats can for core strength .. functional strength .. but they will build size if you know how to use them .. If you can squat,then squat,if you can't .. Then you can't.

 

[DaneGer]

most of your amino acids are held in your legs also, so when you squat they release also legs produce growth thought your whole body more muscles involved but leg press is ok

 

[MANWHORE]

most of your amino acids are held in your legs also, so when you squat they release

heard many theories but never this one. do you have any literature on this

 

[Eclipse]

most of your amino acids are held in your legs also, so when you squat they release also legs produce growth thought your whole body more muscles involved but leg press is ok

I would also be interested in published literature on this topic.

 

[DaneGer]

i ment most or your natural test is released when you do legs in general, but i did hear that too so i donno i guess i shouldnt post if i dont know huh

 

[DaneGer]

or is it GH????? wow i feel like a horses patute

 

[dvs33]

Leg presses give me haemroids

 

[Loperdk]

Since they are heavy leg exercises they are both good. I have seen literature that actually compared squats to leg presses. Squats when done with proper form had more benifits then leg presses in regards to muscle mass. One reason noted was because of increased IGF1 levels. Also for squats remember to keep the gut tight even hold your breath to increase intra abdominal pressure (but do remember to breathe). Dont let it hang.

 

[MANWHORE]

Breath from your stomach when squating and keep it pushed out at the bottom while holding your breath if you want more weight on the bar .. Check out Westside bar... OK forget it because your not squating .. i forgot

 

[j martini]

A benefit of the squat over leg press is while squating your body releases Testosterone and GH more than while leg pressing this is because there is a larger amount of muscle mass activated throughout the entire body while squating, the same can also be said of deadlifts thats why deadlifts and squats are regarded as the most anabolic exercises out there.

 

[MANWHORE]

Well most guys here are using AAS so the Squat increasing Test thing doesn't do it for me ... Squats stimulate the CNS more than legpress because the body is moving through space,so it increases strength more .. with increased strength comes increased muscle .. Now as far as Nutrient Density goes,you can increase that just as good with legpress .. probably even more .. I'd say even more with legcurls in hams and legextensions for quads .. i don't do either,i only squat because i'm more interested in strength

 

[Ronin_]

I would say if you have lower back problems get the vert best advice as to what you can train with.

At the end of the day for me squats, and for many other people arent the best exercise for quad development, but they are like deadlifts integral to leg and body development.

I would if it is at all possible re your physios advice, to include them and do leg presses, front squats, hacks, extensions and leg curls as well, but keep them as a main core

 

[mr.nitro]

I do both, but I cheat, I use a pivioting squat machine

 

[czar]

Hey, im doin starr's 5x5, but i dont have squatting rack in my gym so i have to do it on smith

is it bad option and what should i be looking out for so i dont get injured
and how much does it affect my growth

any tips ?

 

[wildman1717]

Squats work all muscles in the body from head to toe. After doing a squat workout, I'll have a pump going in my upper body as well. If you can't do squats, do leg presses and don't trip. The important thing is that your training and that is more then most people do. Good luck bro.

 

[Pumped Downunder]

Today's training tip comes from Charles Poliquin:

Leg Press vs. Squat

When comparing squats against leg press, squats are far more effective in increasing overall strength. However, there's some evidence to suggest that the leg press might result in more hypertrophy of the quadriceps. One study showed that for the same number of reps, the leg press resulted in a higher amount of GH being produced than squats. As possible evidence, the leg press is the exercise of choice when it comes to speed skating, and I've personally worked with speed skaters whose legs made Tom Platz's look like Woody Allen's. While I'm loathe to recommend leg presses instead of squats, I merely present it as an interesting discussion point.

 

[Bigkarch]

Im sending this to the training area..

 

[MANWHORE]

Today's training tip comes from Charles Poliquin:

Leg Press vs. Squat

When comparing squats against leg press, squats are far more effective in increasing overall strength. However, there's some evidence to suggest that the leg press might result in more hypertrophy of the quadriceps.

that's because if you squat the right way,you should be working your hams and glutes mostly and little quads .. that's just possitioning of the legs and GH output comes from the lowering of PH in the blood... You will always get more of a burn with single joint exercises like legpress and that lowers PH increasing GH output ...

 

[J DUB]

Today's training tip comes from Charles Poliquin:

Leg Press vs. Squat

When comparing squats against leg press, squats are far more effective in increasing overall strength. However, there's some evidence to suggest that the leg press might result in more hypertrophy of the quadriceps. One study showed that for the same number of reps, the leg press resulted in a higher amount of GH being produced than squats. As possible evidence, the leg press is the exercise of choice when it comes to speed skating, and I've personally worked with speed skaters whose legs made Tom Platz's look like Woody Allen's. While I'm loathe to recommend leg presses instead of squats, I merely present it as an interesting discussion point.

This is incorrect, coming straight from Mr. Incorrect As Usual Poliquin.
For one thing, "one study" doesn't really show anything. Next, a transient and very small increase in GH from an exercise does not make an exercise better than another. Let me repeat, if someone says Preacher curls cause 28% more testosterone to be released than barbell curls or something to the like, just say who cares because it doesn't matter. The exact mechanisms behind muscle hypertrophy are not understood, but let me assure you a transient hormonal increase has little to nothing to do with this process. It could possibly set other processes into action, but of itself it is not really worth talking about.

As far as the speed skaters, I am willing to bet they do leg press because they do not want to risk injury to their back. Say what you will about the safety of leg press vs. squat, but more people are injured squatting than leg pressing for sure. If you are a high-caliber skater, you probably won't squat. I certainly wouldn't. And to top it all off, he completely discounts the fact that speed skating will certainly result in hypertrophy of the lower half, as evidenced by the fact that most speed skaters have very big legs. So, is it the leg press or the speed skating that results in their big legs? It's primarily the speed skating, as I doubt all speed skaters do leg press or squat and they still have very big legs. Look at sprint cyclists if you have any doubts here.

Bottom line, Poliquin is stupid. I usually refrain from slander, but he really is.