Living lonely, impotent and no motivation

[cjones]

I don't know how you guys manage so much with hormones always on the mind. Has anyone actually been "fixed" and regained size etc and through what means. I remember as a child before I knew what sex was kissing a girl and getting the hardest erection ever through no control of my own and generally feeling vibrant and like this could happen. Something has gone terribly wrong

With me like painisgrowth on the forum I have high total T but dysfunction just as bad if not worse than most of the guys posting here. I don't know how to tackle this exactly; I have just started supplimenting with maca powder and ordered some boxes of vigorex forte (Avena sativa) I got cheap but where do I go from there? I just want some confidence back, it doesn't exist anymore and this is a very lonely illness

I am taking 12 pellets of Isocort to treat my adrenals for the sake of my sanity at least because I now feel I have a lot more mental clarity and like Megazoid we are almost the same age and I feel somewhat like a slave in living clean through diet etc. I take a thyroid glandular to aid my own production each day. My temps through the day have improved although basal temp/pulse is still falling short probably because I have been like this so long

I don't know what ratio of sex hormones with the combination of primary AI/active thyroid hormone axis has done this to my penis health and function. I think SHBG may be elevated restricting available free T and making me lifeless from the waist down. I got ripped off by a sex shop for 20 caps of vigorex forte when I didn't know anything about hormones but this did provide a lot of relief to my flaccid character. I felt I was walking around again with something between my legs and as disturbing as it sounds I found a discreet place in public to urinate just to feel like some sort of man again.

It is a nightmare no doubt and I think it is life threatening although some say otherwise look at the rising rates of suicides in young males constantly each year. Maybe a decent proportion of them are going through these very complex debilitating issues? Sometimes I wonder if I am going to be stuck like this forever and always feel inhibited that is so depressing I just have to sleep it away. Most people don't actually want to die they just feel that there is no solution to their problems and I couldn't have dreamed up a worse nightmare than this. The physiological long long lasting horrible effects drag you down to the ground. There is no escaping it everyday

A true relationship with a woman and normal social life is impossible with these issues. What can I say just "hey stay with me my dicks only going to get smaller" Its beyond a joke

With sex now if I ever get stuck in a situation I have to go the bathroom first to apply some China Brush to the head of my atrophied member giving a false impression that I can still get hard even if that does it for me and makes you fuck like a trojan. Just the denial of being seen as impotent by the opposite sex makes you want to avoid it and suggestions to it completely.

 

[Fit4Life05]

I don't know how you guys manage so much with hormones always on the mind. Has anyone actually been "fixed" and regained size etc and through what means. I remember as a child before I knew what sex was kissing a girl and getting the hardest erection ever through no control of my own and generally feeling vibrant and like this could happen. Something has gone terribly wrong

With me like painisgrowth on the forum I have high total T but dysfunction just as bad if not worse than most of the guys posting here. I don't know how to tackle this exactly; I have just started supplimenting with maca powder and ordered some boxes of vigorex forte (Avena sativa) I got cheap but where do I go from there? I just want some confidence back, it doesn't exist anymore and this is a very lonely illness

I am taking 12 pellets of Isocort to treat my adrenals for the sake of my sanity at least because I now feel I have a lot more mental clarity and like Megazoid we are almost the same age and I feel somewhat like a slave in living clean through diet etc. I take a thyroid glandular to aid my own production each day. My temps through the day have improved although basal temp/pulse is still falling short probably because I have been like this so long

I don't know what ratio of sex hormones with the combination of primary AI/active thyroid hormone axis has done this to my penis health and function. I think SHBG may be elevated restricting available free T and making me lifeless from the waist down. I got ripped off by a sex shop for 20 caps of vigorex forte when I didn't know anything about hormones but this did provide a lot of relief to my flaccid character. I felt I was walking around again with something between my legs and as disturbing as it sounds I found a discreet place in public to urinate just to feel like some sort of man again.

It is a nightmare no doubt and I think it is life threatening although some say otherwise look at the rising rates of suicides in young males constantly each year. Maybe a decent proportion of them are going through these very complex debilitating issues? Sometimes I wonder if I am going to be stuck like this forever and always feel inhibited that is so depressing I just have to sleep it away. Most people don't actually want to die they just feel that there is no solution to their problems and I couldn't have dreamed up a worse nightmare than this. The physiological long long lasting horrible effects drag you down to the ground. There is no escaping it everyday

A true relationship with a woman and normal social life is impossible with these issues. What can I say just "hey stay with me my dicks only going to get smaller" Its beyond a joke

With sex now if I ever get stuck in a situation I have to go the bathroom first to apply some China Brush to the head of my atrophied member giving a false impression that I can still get hard even if that does it for me and makes you fuck like a trojan. Just the denial of being seen as impotent by the opposite sex makes you want to avoid it and suggestions to it completely.

have u tested E2 E1, prolactin, progesterone, shbg??

 

[cjones]

I would have to travel to a private lab to get E2 etc checked. Right now I am just going by how I feel. I wouldn't bet against me having high E2 causing problems from what I have read

Taking Maca powder, L-A at night and Vigorex Forte (avena) pretty much indefinitely with a one week break every month will hopefully help shbg, free t and e2 be where they need to be to make me feel right

 

[cjones]

I have given this some thought and after speaking to Phil and what he experienced with high E2 I think its about time I got all my sex hormones checked by a private lab and maybe things like Reverse T3

I could need DIM or Arimidex to really get this shit under control and at least get some morning wood back if I do infact have high E2.

 

[dcguy4u]

With sex now if I ever get stuck in a situation I have to go the bathroom first to apply some China Brush to the head of my atrophied member giving a false impression that I can still get hard even if that does it for me and makes you fuck like a trojan. Just the denial of being seen as impotent by the opposite sex makes you want to avoid it and suggestions to it completely.

I hate to hijack the seriousness of this thread. But China Brush piqued my curiosity. It seems like a help for PE. Are you getting erections with it ?

 

[cjones]

I hate to hijack the seriousness of this thread. But China Brush piqued my curiosity. It seems like a help for PE. Are you getting erections with it ?

It is instant viagra in a bottle and is good backup to save face Literally brush a small amount of the tincture on and thats it your getting hard when you want it. The reason it has a lot of PE in the description is that it causes a prolonged erection literally autopilot rock hard no matter how bad you feel when applying it in private

Check out ebay or something it is not expensive; just look for the chinese guys face on the box

General Description: Kwang Tze solution better known as China Brush, is a rich blend of Chinese herbs combined to create an amazingly potent premature ejaculation remedy. Men have been using this product in Asia for years to prolong their erections and increase sexual activity and vitality. The active ingredient in Kwangs solution is Korean Ginseng. The Korean Ginseng is safe to use and permeates a slight cinnamon scent.

Directions: When applied Kwang Tze solutions will postpone ejaculation for up to 15-30 minutes allowing for a longer lasting sexual experience for and your partner .

Active Ingredients: Garro Wood, Bezoar, Clove, Korean Ginseng, Cinnamon

I don't know what it is about the combination of ingredients with Korean Ginseng but it works. When I say erections it literally is for more than adequate sex no matter how dysfunctional you are or feel. If you are at home by yourself be careful not to apply too much anyway because it literally does keep you going

 

[The_Skeptic]

It is instant viagra in a bottle and is good backup to save face Literally brush a small amount of the tincture on and thats it your getting hard when you want it. The reason it has a lot of PE in the description is that it causes a prolonged erection literally autopilot rock hard no matter how bad you feel when applying it in private

Check out ebay or something it is not expensive; just look for the chinese guys face on the box




I don't know what it is about the combination of ingredients with Korean Ginseng but it works. When I say erections it literally is for more than adequate sex no matter how dysfunctional you are or feel. If you are at home by yourself be careful not to apply too much anyway because it literally does keep you going

So if you brush it on your dick, does it leave any lingering smell or taste? Would it cause your woman to say, "ew, what the hell is that?" when she goes down on you?

 

[cjones]

So if you brush it on your dick, does it leave any lingering smell or taste? Would it cause your woman to say, "ew, what the hell is that?" when she goes down on you?

You brush a small amount on the head of your penis and there is a cinnamon scent to it and I think there is an odour free brand also but I haven't tried that one. I would use a condom with it and the best assurance you have is that it actually works. It is nothing like a lube or delay spray and you never want to taste it

If the scent bothers you so much you could wash the head of your penis afterwards also while you are in the privacy of your bathroom before you get into bed

It is the best solution I have found with this if you really need to have sex

 

[onewaypockets]

I would stop the caffinine from the chocolate and the Red Bull. If you have adrenal fatigue you will never get better, caffinine is hard on the adrenals.

I have been taking HC for two months under Dr. M, and only just starting to feel better. I would do as Phil says, chart your temps for a couple of weeks before starting thyroid meds. You have to support your adrenals before attempting thyroid medication.

Neil

 

[wildfox]

Megazoid,

What's your current height and weight, and how many calories are you getting a day? How much from fat, protein and carbs? FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal is a free online tool that can help you measure these data.

I wonder if you don't eat enough. If I don't eat enough, I get anxiety issues and other symptoms you describe. To me it seems that diet and eating enough and eating properly make a good basis for my TRT regimen.

WF

 

[Matt Muscle]

Megazoid, I sent you a Pm.
How long did you try the Prednisone for?
You may have felt worse on the Prednisone because your body was suddenly capable of utilizing the thyroid hormones... In other words, the thyroid dump that was mentioned to you in another post. Perhaps Hydrocortisone would have been a better choice. Starting on a small dose of 2.5 mgs 3 times a day, then building up to 5 mgs 2 -3 times a day.

I do not think you have given Dr M's diagnosis enough credit. Perhaps you should give the adrenal support more time to work with the thyroid medication added perhaps a little later as Phil has mentioned to you. Forget about testosterone supplementation at this stage.

You really do need to try ONE THING for a decent period of time and realise that its not going to be a quick cure. It could take a year or more for you to have really positive results. Your body has been in this state for some time now, why do you expect it will suddenly get better? Get in touch with Dr M and ask if you could do the HC instead of the Pred.
Stick with that for 6 months and add in the thyroid meds when it is appropriate. I am sure Phil can advise when it is the right time to do this. In the mean time, STOP THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THIS. Believe me when I say, you can live your life without sex and without a relationship for a year or two and be happy!!!! Man there is so much more to life than sex. I know there is so much pressure on young guys through the media etc to be having sex on a regular basis or least to be able to perform like a "stud". Let it all go. If you cant have a relationship with a girl at the moment, just accept that and try and enjoy what you do.... the rest will follow on. No girl is going to find you attractive whilst you are obsessing about all this stuff. The time you spend writing all these posts and thinking about all of this is probably making you feel so much worse. Stop looking at your penis, leave it alone, it will be ok eventually. Keep reassuring your self about that and be positive.
Spend some quality time with your friends. Relationships come and go; friends can stay with you for life. Work on developing those.

Let your body heal, get on with doing constructive things, be thankful that you can get up in the morning... walk around on your two legs that function well and use both your arms that also work! You have a body that performs almost 90% and soon hopefully the rest will be ok. If you let your mind rest on this and logically try different meds and give them time to work then you may be able to sort this problem out. I have read so many of your posts and you just need to chill out. Looks like you have so much going for you with all your achievements. How great is that, you are so lucky!! I know so many people that have normal sexual function... but their lives are such a mess because they cannot achieve anything! I truly believe that happiness comes from doing; making; achieving... I am not trivializing your problems, just trying to put them into perspective for you.
Go and refocus your self.

A good therapist will help you do this and I highly recommend that you seek that out.

 

[cjones]

I have taken the above post into consideration but seriously how can young guys like us live without sex? There are so many friends and random people you see with someone and you always go home alone. It is painful to the point it doesn't feel worth bothering going out because this makes you feel so inadequate

I know my brain is ok but having these very real physical inhibitions is tough and life without a woman isn't worth living

I hope I get more positive in the next few months as with Mega I know there are no easy answers with HRT

 

[mkoziolnields]

I waited until I was married to have sex. I couldn't "get it up". I went to the doctor and tried the pills and even the injection into my "junk". Nothing worked. My wife was supportive until 3 years of marriage and told me "when there is a small space between a couple that will never close, over time that space gets bigger." And, she left me. I feel your pain. Now, I'm waiting to die.

 

[eryximachus]

I waited until I was married to have sex. I couldn't "get it up". I went to the doctor and tried the pills and even the injection into my "junk". Nothing worked. My wife was supportive until 3 years of marriage and told me "when there is a small space between a couple that will never close, over time that space gets bigger." And, she left me. I feel your pain. Now, I'm waiting to die.

You resurrected a 6-year old thread to post this sad story.

I'm sorry for you bro.

St. Augustine was very happy when he lost interest in sex. If your situation is this dire and incurable, pursue other interests. We humans are not beasts, concerned only with eating and fornicating. help the homeless. Find some kid who doesn't have a father and spend some time with him. Visit some old people who are lonely.

 

[idmd]

These threads are always interesting. I'm very happily married and have many friends male and female who claim to be happily married and sex has NOTHING to do with it. How do I know....none of us are having all that much!

I know a bunch of people who are married and miserable, both men and women and guess what? Sex has nothing to do with their misery.

My feeling is ED is probably just a woman's really spiteful way of hurting a man when the relationship is already in the death spiral....but it's rarely the cause of the death spiral. I also think the effects of ED are much more profound for the male and that women can deal with ED but not a guys response to his ED.

I've been intimate with very few women who all other things being happy wouldn't accept some amazing cunnilingus and be happy.

 

[1KC]

Hey. I know this thread is super old, but I found it on Google and felt compelled to post, just in case one of you sees it.

I have 100% ED. It never works. I am also lost in life.

Unfortunately, ED is becoming a problem in young men (I'm 23, had it since 16!). The cause is, most likely... internet porn.

If you have any questions, visit "yourbrainonporn.com"

Good luck, guys.

 

[Drea'An]

Llsit
1. diet
2, current life style
3 current labs
4. what do you do all day
5. have you been check for genetic polymorphism (northern europeans dominant trait) this can be a major factory brought on by some child hood or life expereince that resulted in unresolved depression that has manifested at the cellular level.
6. current supplemenation regime
7. current drug protocol
8, symptoms suffering from.
9. time you get uo and goto bed each night
10. your faith or religion do you practice it
11. have they check mineral levels copper, ferrtin, ect.

I think you need to look into skilled relxation exercises in order to help deal with daily life.

Not bad Dr. Layman.

 

[Drea'An]

I think you ex-TRT guys went to the wrong doctors. Prescribing low dosages of test and other drugs side by side don't work. 1KC writes about how masturbation caused ED.
That ED was cause by destroying the nerve network in your groin area. Jacking off 7-10 times a day everyday will kill your dick. I'd say fuck those doctors, go online and buy your own stuff. I meditate also. TM is what I do. I tried Zen Buddhist meditation, but like like TM better. Cialis is good because it stays with 36 hours or longer depends on what you have consumed. And one more thing, testosterone injections won't do you no damn good if you sit on your ass all day long. GET THE FUCK UP AND DO SOMETHING! Gym, mall, cafe, bar, meet people, converse about any damn thing, but get out goddamn it!

 

[1KC]

I think you ex-TRT guys went to the wrong doctors. Prescribing low dosages of test and other drugs side by side don't work. 1KC writes about how masturbation caused ED.
That ED was cause by destroying the nerve network in your groin area. Jacking off 7-10 times a day everyday will kill your dick. I'd say fuck those doctors, go online and buy your own stuff. I meditate also. TM is what I do. I tried Zen Buddhist meditation, but like like TM better. Cialis is good because it stays with 36 hours or longer depends on what you have consumed. And one more thing, testosterone injections won't do you no damn good if you sit on your ass all day long. GET THE FUCK UP AND DO SOMETHING! Gym, mall, cafe, bar, meet people, converse about any damn thing, but get out goddamn it!

Yeah, this is a common misunderstanding. I was FIT enough in highschool. So are many other sufferers of this bullshit. You can run and lift until you drop dead. It won't help you.

No ED drugs. No supplements. No snake oil.

Visit yourbrainonporn.com for the science behind porn-induced ED and yourbrainrebalanced.com to read stories of hopelessness and recovery.

 

[Drea'An]

I've saved both sites to my desk top. Goddamn, this serious shit!