Loose skin protocol — GHKCU?

[RockyP]

Bumping this - came across this older episode of Canadian Beef where Robin said that he had a client who did very well with GHK-Cu and Epitalon - didn't get into dosing protocol - for his loose skin. Kurt said that a client of his who had severe loose skin (lost over 100 lbs) was able to tighten it up by using 18 iu of serostim per day for I believe 12 weeks (which would cost about $8400 at the going rate for Sero's) - discussion starts around 49:00 min mark


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGydFk8FAgA

 

[lipzz17]

Bumping this - came across this older episode of Canadian Beef where Robin said that he had a client who did very well with GHK-Cu and Epitalon - didn't get into dosing protocol - for his loose skin. Kurt said that a client of his who had severe loose skin (lost over 100 lbs) was able to tighten it up by using 18 iu of serostim per day for I believe 12 weeks (which would cost about $8400 at the going rate for Sero's)


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGydFk8FAgA

Without a doubt its a lie, or it was very little loose skin, i used 20mg ghk-cu daily for six months and i am using 20ui hgh daily too but its very minor changes, the best we can do about loose skin its cutting it all on surgery

 

[Nardicus69]

GHK-CU is a meme for anyone who understands biology, chemistry, and pharmacology

All results are placebo

 

[null88]

I would think HGH would make your skin worst, it will thicken the skin, adding more weight and make the skin sag more.

 

[RockyP]

I don’t disagree. Just sharing what these others have done.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

I would think HGH would make your skin worst, it will thicken the skin, adding more weight and make the skin sag more.

Thickening skin is generally considered a good thing in dermatology.

 

[ni3k]

Just curious, did you try RF treatment before surgery?

hi no i didnt, however i dont think it would have achieved the same result as i now have

 

[Swedishsteel]

Without a doubt its a lie, or it was very little loose skin, i used 20mg ghk-cu daily for six months and i am using 20ui hgh daily too but its very minor changes, the best we can do about loose skin its cutting it all on surgery

There are studies showing caffeine block the effect of collagen supplements, this is very unknown and people hate to discuss the sides of caffeine spec scientists as they all use it. but it is indeed a neurotoxin that attack your cns (plant pesticede that attack cns of bugs) ruins skin n dehydrate you

 

[Swedishsteel]

GHK-CU is a meme for anyone who understands biology, chemistry, and pharmacology

All results are placebo

Copper is critical for collagen

 

[lipzz17]

There are studies showing caffeine block the effect of collagen supplements, this is very unknown and people hate to discuss the sides of caffeine spec scientists as they all use it. but it is indeed a neurotoxin that attack your cns (plant pesticede that attack cns of bugs) ruins skin n dehydrate you

Hmm i didnt know that but in my case i dont drink coffee nor energetics, never liked them

 

[Nardicus69]

Copper is critical for collagen

Yes copper is necessary for collagen, but you need to understand that 99% of people are not deficient in copper, so yea copper deficiency can impair collagen, more copper does nothing for collagen output. Once enzyme needs are met, Adding more copper does nothing.

its like saying Oxygen is vital for muscles, therefore breathing in more oxygen will build more muscles ? you see how that doesnt make sense ?


I am going to give a few reasons why GHK-CU is the biggest scam:

1. The bac water mixed with copper makes the copper ions unstable due to PH balance (So instability paired with a short half life, your lucky if it even reaches the eperdermis of the skin, n even than, with a short half life, it cant make any meaningful difference on the skin)

2. The Half life of GHK-CU is very short so claims like ("2mg injections for 2 months cause glow and purge and collage") make no pharmacological sense
n mechanistically doesnt even work that way due to not being able to bind the receptors responsible for creating a purge like effect.

3. Gene modulation benifits are massively overstated, n no one even understands what there talking about when mentioning this as a benifit.

4. If it truly worked, research would not have stalled, it couldn't even go through phase 1 of systemic use in humans causes even the PHD researcher's knew it was a waste of time, Research does not stall for no reason. (mind you, going through phase 1 is a very low bar) If copper delivery was as powerful as you say, Big Pharma would've exploited it.

5. Hair thickening claims are placebo at best, it doesnt even interact with the follicle nor manipulate the anlagen phase like minox and fin/dut. nor does It bind to androgen receptors.

7. There are legit better options that exist for every claim about it that has been made regarding this peptide. The collagen benifits are comical compared to things like Tazarotene, Trentnoin, RedLight, Elavated IGF-1 levels, micro needling, the list goes on. GHK is not producing more collagen than any of these options at all.

 

[Nardicus69]

I would think HGH would make your skin worst, it will thicken the skin, adding more weight and make the skin sag more.

The problem with HGH, is that it can increase sebum thus making your sebaceous glands appear bigger via hypertrophy of the glands (Facial pores) which doesnt look good and can actually lead to acne, some people micro dose accutane while on HGH so we get the collagen benifits while keeping skin not as oily. So it meets the best of both worlds.

If you running high test adding Dutastride does alot for the skin as welll

 

[Nardicus69]

There are studies showing caffeine block the effect of collagen supplements, this is very unknown and people hate to discuss the sides of caffeine spec scientists as they all use it. but it is indeed a neurotoxin that attack your cns (plant pesticede that attack cns of bugs) ruins skin n dehydrate you

Dude please source a study im begging you,

I dont think you even know how to interpret a study and your fear mongering so hard and over exaggerated how much caffeine will make a difference
and LMFAO at mentioning collagen supplements, even without consumption of caffeine, the collagen supplements are hardly getting absorbed to begin with.

[Source me a study that shows caffeine damages neurons]

[Source me a study that shows caffeine causes nuerodegeneration]

[Source me a study that shows caffeine kills CNS Cells]

I'll give you hint, None of these studies exist, in fact its quite the opposite, Caffine is shown to have neuro protective benifits that are very benificial to humans especially someone who if cognitively declining.
And for the part that It dehydrates you ? well yea it acts as a mild diuretic n most people drink liquid when consuming caffeine so it acts a net nueteral in that regards.

The plant pesticide thing ? well yea it does show to harm bugs which you are right about but there is more nuance,last time I checked, where not bugs , We would have to take huge deadly amount of it to even have near of that effect which like 50+ cans of Red Bulls a day!!! no one is drinking that LMFAO