Lost in the bulk? - Estrogen at 100pg/ml on cycle

[Doc2]

Greetings everyone, hope you're all doing well.

I'm currently at around halfway my cycle of 500mg test with some dbol sprinkled for pwo at times, and got bloodwork and to my surprise my estrogen came back at 100pg/ml. Also way heavier than I was when I started the cycle, fat added as well.
I've been noticing I'm more emotionally unstable, not prone to rage or anything alike, just get a lot sadder/annoyed a lot quicker.

Usual advice is not to take AI unless you get gyno or dick goes limp, which hasn't happened. Any advice? Should I look into a DHT derivate, should I just take AI?

PS: I'm a young healthy guy and was a competitive athlete in case that matters with regards to how I react to estrogen.

 

[dafqu1]

I start taking small doses of ai (like .25mg adex) when I get emotional and have gay impulses. when your nips start hurting thats too late in my opinion. At that point you have to take nolva also or risk crashing your estrogen with high doses cuz its going to turn into gyno fast

 

[TheRingloVale]

Greetings everyone, hope you're all doing well.

I'm currently at around halfway my cycle of 500mg test with some dbol sprinkled for pwo at times, and got bloodwork and to my surprise my estrogen came back at 100pg/ml. Also way heavier than I was when I started the cycle, fat added as well.
I've been noticing I'm more emotionally unstable, not prone to rage or anything alike, just get a lot sadder/annoyed a lot quicker.

Usual advice is not to take AI unless you get gyno or dick goes limp, which hasn't happened. Any advice? Should I look into a DHT derivate, should I just take AI?

PS: I'm a young healthy guy and was a competitive athlete in case that matters with regards to how I react to estrogen.

You should definitely take an AI. The emotional swings are one of the estrogenic side effects to look out for, and for me they come on earlier than water retention or gyno. Whenever I feel like that I shake my head and I feel sorry for my wife because that's probably how she feels all the time.

 

[ackmack78]

Take the AI if you have symptoms. Emotionally unstable, sadder and annoyed is definitely an estrogen side.

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

what u guys think is better with strong gyno flares up , ralox or tamox?

 

[tuffie]

what u guys think is better with strong gyno flares up , ralox or tamox?

Both are effective. Which is better? The answer is whichever one you have in arms reach quickest to nullify the gyno effects. You don't want to wait. Either is good to have on hand.

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

I heard tamox is better for gyno flares, and ralox for some gyno already formed.
well im doing ralox 60mg from pharmacy...thats what i got on hand
i was doing NPP ONLY, but this shit must be test P, or even dbol, but never felt this kind of flare

In 5 days i start to have strong gyno flares up , i start ralox but in the 10th day my gland double and wore sore, that day i done bloodtest and also take caber because i thought it could be prolactin.

This wednesday done another shot in the morning , in the afternoon i got the bloodwork results, my prolactin and progesterone actually lower , but mY E2 and DHT doubled in 10 days. By the end of the afternoon my nipples start to firing and i take 1 anastrozol to calm down shits.

I should have applied it again on Friday, but I didn't really feel like it considering this, but today I decided to apply it to finish the vial and also to take some anastrozole earlier to see if my nipples will still feel like last time. , that is, today I took a ralox in the morning, applied it in the late afternoon, and took anastrozole right after, we'll see.

 

[tuffie]

If your local pharmacy has tamoxifen/nolvadex availble over the counter, buy it too. (im just assuming you got ralox over the counter, 100% they will have nolvadex too at least 40mg to start). ive read some comprehensive deep dives about ralox and yes, either just as effective if not better because it can shrink gyno if developed. if you continue the aas, better to be prepared with tamox/nolva too. Best of luck.

If you took a 1mg anastrozol, imo, another dose of anastrozol would help too. 1 week - E3D of anastrozol. Listen to what your body is telling you, if you feel if 1 dose of anastrozol is enough with the ralox, then thats even better.

 

[Avarice911]

I’ve found for me that nolva will pause gyno symptoms and ralox will not or at least will not fully stop the pain and swelling

 

[OldGHGuy]

Greetings everyone, hope you're all doing well.

I'm currently at around halfway my cycle of 500mg test with some dbol sprinkled for pwo at times, and got bloodwork and to my surprise my estrogen came back at 100pg/ml. Also way heavier than I was when I started the cycle, fat added as well.
I've been noticing I'm more emotionally unstable, not prone to rage or anything alike, just get a lot sadder/annoyed a lot quicker.

Usual advice is not to take AI unless you get gyno or dick goes limp, which hasn't happened. Any advice? Should I look into a DHT derivate, should I just take AI?

PS: I'm a young healthy guy and was a competitive athlete in case that matters with regards to how I react to estrogen.

No AI without gyno. Fat gain is diet, plain and simple (bad diet doent help estrogen either). Tighten up your diet and drop back some on the Test (if you must) and you will be fine. Another drug isnt always the answer. High E2 is your body's normal reaction.

The one time I added AI just for kicks my E2 went from over 100 to 60 and my joints were horrible.