Low dose cycle - test/NPP

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I was saying better things happen with around 12 weeks I but put 20 as a max range.

How?

It’s all relevant to the person and their abilities.

If I train hard for 10 disciplined weeks, I’m going to get better results than someone that burns out and half-asses it for 12-20 weeks.

Also, on 10 weeks on/10 weeks off, I can get almost 3 cycles in each year. Where the guy doing 20 weeks on will only get 1. See how I’m giving reasons here?

Why would someone want to run NPP for 20 weeks?

You made a statement and then followed it up with a generality with zero reasons. That’s not educating anyone. That’s only really an opinion.

 

[EazyE]

Absolutely. Adding Provrion solved those issues for me. I won't run nandrolone without proviron or mast.

They go together like bread and butter. The golden rule with nandrolone in my books!

 

[Cashton]

Well we can all sleep good tonight knowing that.

sorry you had to see that, my feelings were just hurt and I was a sad baby as pointed out by brokendickbalddude

 

[cochino]

How?

It’s all relevant to the person and their abilities.

If I train hard for 10 disciplined weeks, I’m going to get better results than someone that burns out and half-asses it for 12-20 weeks.

Also, on 10 weeks on/10 weeks off, I can get almost 3 cycles in each year. Where the guy doing 20 weeks on will only get 1. See how I’m giving reasons here?

Why would someone want to run NPP for 20 weeks?

You made a statement and then followed it up with a generality with zero reasons. That’s not educating anyone. That’s only really an opinion.

Bro just cycle that shit for 50 weeks and take a two week vacy. Gainz ftw.

 

[Cashton]

How?

It’s all relevant to the person and their abilities.

If I train hard for 10 disciplined weeks, I’m going to get better results than someone that burns out and half-asses it for 12-20 weeks.

Also, on 10 weeks on/10 weeks off, I can get almost 3 cycles in each year. Where the guy doing 20 weeks on will only get 1. See how I’m giving reasons here?

Why would someone want to run NPP for 20 weeks?

You made a statement and then followed it up with a generality with zero reasons. That’s not educating anyone. That’s only really an opinion.

No no, when you put it like that.. you make a good point.. I just think 8 weeks .. is rather short, and 10 weeks isn’t much longer...

 

[Silentlemon1011]

No no, when you put it like that.. you make a good point.. I just think 8 weeks .. is rather short, and 10 weeks isn’t much longer...

6 weeks is a nice length for a short blast.
I'd rather do a strict 6 week than a shitty 16

 

[cochino]

No no, when you put it like that.. you make a good point.. I just think 8 weeks .. is rather short, and 10 weeks isn’t much longer...

You should be able to make good gains with short esters running them 8-10 weeks. There's really no need in running them longer. Hell I can make really decent gains running test c or e for 8 weeks.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

sorry you had to see that, my feelings were just hurt and I was a sad baby as pointed out by brokendickbalddude

You got the wrong guy. My dick works totally fine and I didn’t say anything about your feelings.

Jesus. You fucking new guys misquote and don’t try. Why even bother posting? You fuck it all up.

 

[Test_Subject]

No no, when you put it like that.. you make a good point.. I just think 8 weeks .. is rather short, and 10 weeks isn’t much longer...

8 week cycles are fantastic. They allow you to stay hyper-focused and maximize your results.

As stated, an 8 week, short-ester cycle done with purpose will crush a half-ass 20 week long-ester cycle as far as gains go.

 

[cochino]

You got the wrong guy. My dick works totally fine and I didn’t say anything about your feelings.

Jesus. You fucking new guys misquote and don’t try. Why even bother posting? You fuck it all up.

I don't know what's up with some of these new guys lately. When I joined there was none of this being a dick bullshit. I knew some about aas from my own experiences, but still I mostly lurked and listened, in fact I still do. There's guys here that have forgotten more than I will ever know and I'm okay with that. It's okay to be wrong and be corrected without getting all butthurt. I don't know maybe it's the tren or maybe too much estrogen ffs.

 

[Bobthebencher]

At lest my dick works on Deca?

I mean if you could read you’d be able to see that I solved the issue, I’m rather good at that. You should try it sometime

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I don't know what's up with some of these new guys lately. When I joined there was none of this being a dick bullshit. I knew some about aas from my own experiences, but still I mostly lurked and listened, in fact I still do. There's guys here that have forgotten more than I will ever know and I'm okay with that. It's okay to be wrong and be corrected without getting all butthurt. I don't know maybe it's the tren or maybe too much estrogen ffs.

They suck. It’s like they’re all autistic. They fuck it up in here for a couple weeks and due to their total inability to form social connections they disappear. Then another new guy comes in with his equally fucked up attitude and strong opinions based on misunderstanding.

I lurked for a full year before ever registering. That’s the only way to learn enough.

 

[Cashton]

You got the wrong guy. My dick works totally fine and I didn’t say anything about your feelings.

Jesus. You fucking new guys misquote and don’t try. Why even bother posting? You fuck it all up.

looking back now, I see it was bob.. I’m sorry.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

They suck. It’s like they’re all autistic. They fuck it up in here for a couple weeks and due to their total inability to form social connections they disappear. Then another new guy comes in with his equally fucked up attitude and strong opinions based on misunderstanding.

I lurked for a full year before ever registering. That’s the only way to learn enough.

There is always asking questions as opposed to making statements.

Dont know something?
Ask.

Fuck, the amount of information I've gained from Meso from just asking questions of the vets here is amazing.

Not to mention training, I've upped my total by just talking with the PL crew.

I've learned a fuck tonne about short blasts from guys like Oldschool

So much information and so many great guys here who are literally looking to impart knowledge to guys like me.

Too bad the fucking new retards just cant comprehend that.

 

[Cashton]

I mean if you could read you’d be able to see that I solved the issue, I’m rather good at that. You should try it sometime

Will try it sometime thanks.

 

[Cashton]

There is always asking questions as opposed to making statements.

Dont know something?
Ask.

Fuck, the amount of information I've gained from Meso from just asking questions of the vets here is amazing.

Not to mention training, I've upped my total by just talking with the PL crew.

I've learned a fuck tonne about short blasts from guys like Oldschool

So much information and so many great guys here who are literally looking to impart knowledge to guys like me.

Too bad the fucking new retards just cant comprehend that.

To be fair, none of this woulda even came up if buddy didn’t come in attacking me and being a total asshole for choosing to run something longer, and saying that you get better results from longer weeks on than fewer.

 

[Bobthebencher]

Ohhhh here we go victim card

 

[Silentlemon1011]

To be fair, none of this woulda even came up if buddy didn’t come in attacking me and being a total asshole for choosing to run something longer, and saying that you get better results from longer weeks on than fewer.

Honestly
I have to disagree.

You STATED that 20 weeks was a better cycle than 6 to 8

That's a statement that you decided to just post.
Oldschool and BBBG only responded to your post.

In your 20 week cycle..... you've crashed your lipids for an extended period of time. The longer you lipds are crashed, the more buildup you get and the worse the risks are... hence why the new norm is any week Oral finisher instead of a kick off

You're experiences fatigue from high androgens.

In those same 20 weeks...

2 blasts
Bith of them training INTENSE
Feel great at the end of the cycle.
Short term lipid crash etc.

I could go on for a while....
But I think you get the point.

ayou made a STATEMENT

If you had said.

"6 weeks sounds interesting...
But I PERSONALLY prefer a 20 week run (Insert reason, like PCT or you're running low doses)

Then no one would have said shit.

I do both.

I'll be running a 4-6 Tren blast soon.

Then in the winter a 16 week low dose Test/Deca/Mast.

It's the way you come off as being right and others are wrong.
without giving any REASONS behind it.

Learn

 

[Bobthebencher]

Just pulling your leg lol

 

[Cashton]

Honestly
I have to disagree.

You STATED that 20 weeks was a better cycle than 6 to 8

That's a statement that you decided to just post.
Oldschool and BBBG only responded to your post.

In your 20 week cycle..... you've crashed your lipids for an extended period of time. The longer you lipds are crashed, the more buildup you get and the worse the risks are... hence why the new norm is any week Oral finisher instead of a kick off

You're experiences fatigue from high androgens.

In those same 20 weeks...

2 blasts
Bith of them training INTENSE
Feel great at the end of the cycle.
Short term lipid crash etc.

I could go on for a while....
But I think you get the point.

ayou made a STATEMENT

If you had said.

"6 weeks sounds interesting...
But I PERSONALLY prefer a 20 week run (Insert reason, like PCT or you're running low doses)

Then no one would have said shit.

I do both.

I'll be running a 4-6 Tren blast soon.

Then in the winter a 16 week low dose Test/Deca/Mast.

It's the way you come off as being right and others are wrong.
without giving any REASONS behind it.

Learn

Fair enough.