Low dose tren for 14 weeks - is that too long?

[Marketpro4k]

The key to preventing night sweats is avoid eating carbs after 5pm and take magnesium threonate before bed. Calms the central nervous system. Also great for brain health in general. My neurosurgeon put me onto it.

 

[rmhla]

The key to preventing night sweats is avoid eating carbs after 5pm and take magnesium threonate before bed. Calms the central nervous system. Also great for brain health in general. My neurosurgeon put me onto it.

Uhmmm I dont think that applies to those using tren... could be wrong?

 

[goomoonryong9]

For those interested, after decades of messing with this all I take for protection is the following:

- 2000mg NAC split morning & night
- 1200mg TUDCA split morning & night
- 600mg Cranberry extract split morning & night
- 500mg CoQ-10 split morning & night
- 40mg Telmisartan Nightly on blasts
- 10mg Rosuvastatin nightly on blasts

Can you drop the brands you used for the ancilliaries?

 

[rmhla]

Can you drop the brands you used for the ancilliaries?

Milk thistle extract works very well also. Not good of traveling but for at home.
1 table spoon in the am daily.

Then only need Nac and Tudca really.

 

[Astartes]

Milk thistle extract works very well also. Not good of traveling but for at home.
1 table spoon in the am daily.

Then only need Nac and Tudca really.

I stopped milk thistle. It just doesn’t compare to combo of NAC and TUDCA. Not a bad supplement, just ROI is significantly lower

 

[bananafeet]

I stopped milk thistle. It just doesn’t compare to combo of NAC and TUDCA. Not a bad supplement, just ROI is significantly lower

What about UDCA? I'm taking a shit ton of it for my gallbladder stones. I noticed it improved my Gamma GT

 

[Photon]

I stopped milk thistle. It just doesn’t compare to combo of NAC and TUDCA. Not a bad supplement, just ROI is significantly lower

What does coq10 do for you?

 

[RockyP]

What does coq10 do for you?

Prob just takes it due to being on statin?

 

[Astartes]

Uhmmm I dont think that applies to those using tren... could be wrong?

100% it does. Take 200 medium to high glycemic carbs after 8pm, then do less than 30 low glycemic. Fun little experiment… on the _low_ carb day.. lol

 

[Astartes]

What does coq10 do for you?

Has brain, kidney, and other implications

 

[Astartes]

Kidneys: Reduces oxidative stress and improves mitochondrial function in chronic kidney disease (CKD), potentially protecting against steroid-induced renal injury and fibrosis.


• Brain: Provides antioxidant support to mitigate cellular damage; may help with cognitive impairment or neurodegenerative risks, though evidence is mixed for steroid-related effects.


• Liver: Lowers liver enzymes (ALT, AST, GGT) and reduces hepatic fat accumulation; could counteract steroid-induced liver toxicity and damage.


• Cardiovascular Health: Enhances heart function, lowers blood pressure, and supports cholesterol balance; helps mitigate steroid-related hypertension, dyslipidemia, and heart risks.

 

[Marketpro4k]

Uhmmm I dont think that applies to those using tren... could be wrong?

This is precisely how to avoid night sweats when using tren. Try it and see the next time you cycle it

 

[bananafeet]

This is precisely how to avoid night sweats when using tren. Try it and see the next time you cycle it

It's interesting because on tren if I have a quick nap or rest for a bit after eating my body temp goes up and I start sweating bad. I actually enjoy the feeling lol

 

[fw190jd]

Gonna run 10mg of Tren Ace a day, so 70mg a week. Any issue running this for 14 weeks of my 20 week cycle (500mg test base and 250mg EQ)?

I can certainly run it less time, and I do plan on getting labs every 6 weeks and adjusting accordingly.

Have you ever done Tren before ?
what are you trying to achieve by including this in your stack? and what else are you doing with it? and how have you responded to those other some things? it's nice to hear what other people have to say it kind of gives you a feel for what could lie ahead down the road but at the same time everybody's a little bit different. Tren isn't magic and there's always a lot to deal with psychologically.

 

[bananafeet]

Have you ever done Tren before ?
what are you trying to achieve by including this in your stack? and what else are you doing with it? and how have you responded to those other some things? it's nice to hear what other people have to say it kind of gives you a feel for what could lie ahead down the road but at the same time everybody's a little bit different. Tren isn't magic and there's always a lot to deal with psychologically.

Takes tren once.

*Blinks*

Ends up in jail lol

 

[Marketpro4k]

It's interesting because on tren if I have a quick nap or rest for a bit after eating my body temp goes up and I start sweating bad. I actually enjoy the feeling lol

yeah tren turns you into a metabolic furnace

 

[BatmanVAR]

Biggest concern would be lipids and HsCRP (assuming you don't experience bad night sweats, prolactin issues, and all the other fun stuff). If HsCRP is in check you can manage HDL obliteration with lowering your LDL with statins / Zetia. I tolerate tren very well personally and that's actually a bad thing because I'm constantly thinking about using it. But just watch that hsCRP. If it's in range you should be ok.

Thanks. My pre-cycle HS CRP was .2 but I'll check it again after 4 weeks on tren.

 

[BatmanVAR]

Have you ever done Tren before ?
what are you trying to achieve by including this in your stack? and what else are you doing with it? and how have you responded to those other some things? it's nice to hear what other people have to say it kind of gives you a feel for what could lie ahead down the road but at the same time everybody's a little bit different. Tren isn't magic and there's always a lot to deal with psychologically.

This is my first time running tren. I've been on TRT for 8 months and I'm 6 weeks into a blast consisting of 500mg T and 250mg EQ. Also running HGH the last 7 weeks. Bloodwork is perfect so far. I've done blasts a long time ago - like 20-25 years ago but anabolics from then until I started TRT last year.

The nutrient partitioning aspect of tren entices me, but I'm also just curious to see how I respond to various compounds. For example I ran 4 weeks of 50mg Anavar daily and I got literally nothing out of it other than an HDL hit. Pumps were better I guess but that was it. So I learned Anavar isn't for me. So just doing a similar experiment with Tren.

I'm older, kids are grown, super healthy with perfect bloodwork, etc. so just sort of gently experimenting with a few things.

 

[fw190jd]

This is my first time running tren. I've been on TRT for 8 months and I'm 6 weeks into a blast consisting of 500mg T and 250mg EQ. Also running HGH the last 7 weeks. Bloodwork is perfect so far. I've done blasts a long time ago - like 20-25 years ago but anabolics from then until I started TRT last year.

The nutrient partitioning aspect of tren entices me, but I'm also just curious to see how I respond to various compounds. For example I ran 4 weeks of 50mg Anavar daily and I got literally nothing out of it other than an HDL hit. Pumps were better I guess but that was it. So I learned Anavar isn't for me. So just doing a similar experiment with Tren.

I'm older, kids are grown, super healthy with perfect bloodwork, etc. so just sort of gently experimenting with a few things.

I get where you’re coming from. I’m in a similar situation myself. I wouldn’t write off oxandrolone (Anavar) too quickly—it’s a very mild compound overall, but it consistently shows benefits in strength, training intensity, and progressive overload. It’s not going to add mass the way nandrolone (Deca) or boldenone (EQ) might, but if nutrition and recovery are in order, the performance carryover can still pay dividends.
For context, I’m currently entering week five, running trenbolone at 150 mg per week. I haven’t seen the pronounced vascularity some people report, but I have noticed a clear increase in gym intensity. That said, I also use testosterone suspension (TNE) at 100 mg approximately 45 minutes pre-workout, and that has made a very noticeable difference in drive and intensity during training—arguably more so than the tren alone.
On the tren side, especially as a first exposure, it’s definitely been a bit of a roller coaster. No night sweats for me, but I’ve experienced some insomnia, elevated libido, and increased irritability. All manageable, but very noticeable, and it highlights how important sleep, stress management, and recovery are when using these compounds.

 

[bananafeet]

As much as I love tren. It's kind of overhyped. I like the psychological effects because I'm naturally a pussy and I like the agression in the gym. Normally I'd be too anxious to lift heavier weights or the pain would put me off. With tren you're not quite normal and it's more appealing to do risky shit.

Now onto the so called special effects of tren. Nutrition partitioning or whatever. You know I could post fancy shit about testosterone to make it attractive too.

Like you know that the paracrine aromatisation of testosterone in tissues offsets the reactive oxygen species and protects somewhat against the negative effects. Or did you know that the 5 alpha reduction of testosterone into DHT sensitised the androgen receptor?

Seperate they hype and marketing from the real world effects. I know it sounds cool to talk like MPMD or vigorous Steve. But at the end of the day take the low dose of tren, multiple it by 5 and take testosterone instead. Probably safer long term.

Source: Kinetic and thermodynamic characterization of dihydrotestosterone-induced conformational perturbations in androgen receptor ligand-binding domain - PubMed

If you want more just ask an AI for sources showing those effects I mentioned above.