Low test

[Cykodelik]

For about 2 years now I have had the symptoms of low test but just realized they were symptoms of low t after lurking these forums for about 6 months. I was looking into AAS because I couldn't make any gains, actually feel I am losing strength. Also, unable to lose any fat without atleast 3000 calorie deficit(which increases strength loss). About 2 weeks ago I finally got my doc to check my time levels and my total test is 213 at the ripe old age of 23. He put me on 2 pumps of androgel 1.62% and said we'll check my levels again in 6 weeks. My concern is my doc seems to not know anything about trt and I can't find any specialists near me. What are some things I can suggest to him to try to get my body back to making its own test.

 

[Cykodelik]

Oh haven't started androgel yet waiting on preapproval

 

[Dr JIM]

At your age, requesting an Endo referral seems reasonable IF you have NEVER used ANY PEDS.

What other labs did your Doc perform?

It seems prophetic
for anyone to pursue a "low T" causation for an isolated complaint of hey doc I'm not making any gains in the gym.

We all know them as spectators, fans, rather than the bouncer, running back or star BB forward.

While I'm not minimizing the importance of a physiologically effective TT level, allow me to suggest you broaden your perspective about what's really important in life, by focusing on developing your brain thru an education, as that "gain" lasts a lifetime.

I mention this bc for MANY TRT does not fulfill the void in their lives and so to the need to feel
"normal"!

It's unfortunate soooo many "low T" boards or blogs have grossly hyped TRT as if it's some therapeutic panacea for being male.

 

[Do3Gs]

While I'm not minimizing the importance of a physiologically effective TT level, allow me to suggest you broaden your perspective about what's really important in life, by focusing on developing your brain thru an education, as that "gain" lasts a lifetime.

This just may be the best post I've seen on this board! Things like this is what makes Meso lucky to have intelligent, knowledgable, caring (even if he won't admit it) people like @Dr JIM.

Sorry OP I have nothing beneficial to add to your thread just felt the need to say this.

Is this what a shill post feels like?

 

[Cykodelik]

Thanks for the reply. He checked my thyroid and said it was good. Thats pretty much all he checked.

Really the gains problem is just discouraging. The more important side effects I have are no sex drive I haven't had sex or beat it in 10.5 months, being unable to stay awake thru out the day, depression and fat gain.

 

[Cykodelik]

And the need to fix this problem has come from what's important in life, my six week old son. I want to be in full health for him so I can be around for him and my wife as long as possible.

 

[Cykodelik]

And never used peds. Did do a lot of drugs in high school though. I over dosed on dilauded and valuim on 12/26/11. I aspirated in my sleep an ended up getting put in a coma for 4 days. They said one side of my brain was swollen so I don't know if that situation could've caused a slow decline in test

 

[Cykodelik]

Another symptom is I never have morningwood but I guess I don't really care about that

 

[TheOldFart]

I had several symptoms (depression was the worst) of low T when I was 63, so going on TRT was an easy decision. At 23, I would not just start on TRT, even with a T level of 213. I would at least want to know if it was primary or secondary. You need to have LH and FSH tested at the very least. If you go on TRT then you will likely be on it for a very long life.

Because of your drug, coma, brain swelling, it could be that your hypothalamus or pituitary is not working properly and not sending a signal to your testes to make testosterone.

hypothalamus pituitary testosterone - Google Search

 

[Balbinator]

I had several symptoms (depression was the worst) of low T when I was 63, so going on TRT was an easy decision. At 23, I would not just start on TRT, even with a T level of 213. I would at least want to know if it was primary or secondary. You need to have LH and FSH tested at the very least. If you go on TRT then you will likely be on it for a very long life.

Because of your drug, coma, brain swelling, it could be that your hypothalamus or pituitary is not working properly and not sending a signal to your testes to make testosterone.

hypothalamus pituitary testosterone - Google Search

Hi sir do you think you can help me with my problem

 

[TheOldFart]

Balbinator, I've read all of the discussion about both you being secondary and potentially using Clomid. Nearly all of what I have studied and know about is related to TRT. I know that hcg can be used alone or with TRT if you are secondary and that Clomid is used to restart if there is a problem with the HPTA, but that is about all I know about both of those.

Based on your age and being secondary, I would want to pursue Clomid of hcg instead of just jumping into the TRT regime. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to advise you on either of those. Your best bet is to find a good endo who is knowledgeable in more than just T replacement. Perhaps that's what you'll end up with in the end, but I would not start with that until all other treatments are ruled out.