Lurker to Member - Looking for advice low-T

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Been lurking the forum for a long time, learned a lot, finally think I've educated myself enough to join in on the fun. Never taken anything except general supplements

Late 20s, mid 180s, 5'10", mid teens BF if guessing, good diet, good workout regime

I got bloods taken and I'm looking for advice on what I should consider from people with different experiences. I had it done twice because the first time was terrible and unusual, basically in the range of a 90-year old. Second test was still what I consider terrible, but doctor said I was in normal range. After my own research, this seems normal range for ALL ages, not my age.

1st test: Total 193 ng/dl, Free 44 pg/ml, SHBG 19 nmol/l
2nd test: Total 363 ng/dl, Free 84 pg/ml, SHBG 20 nmol/l

Doctor said first test was done too late in the day to be accurate, other was right after waking up, still bad. The only symptom of low-T I have is fatigue which IMO is pretty bad. Others like libido and hair seem good but that may be just normal to me, and not actually good.

I've considered going to an endocrinologist to push the fatigue symptom but don't know if it's worth it. Do I just cycle myself or let a doctor get me on TRT? I've thought about running Test-C/Arimidex w/ Clomid PCT for 10w Test + 3w off + 4w PCT. Obviously that's the one-liner version of the cycle but looking for general thoughts before I start designing the exact cycle.

Sorry long first post...

 

[Kinetic]

Welcome aboard.

I wouldn't self-medicate unless you've done a whole lot of research - and I mean much more than lurking on a forum or two for a little while - and have the means to track your progress through routine bloodwork.

If you have insurance, which you look to have, I'd keep working with them to find a solution. TRT can be a lifelong decision. If a disorder may be causing borderline low test levels, I'd be looking to correct it first and seeing where your natty levels can go. If your docs exhaust all other avenues and recommend TRT, then you can decide whether to do it under a doctor's supervision or on your own. Personally, I prefer pharma for TRT instead of relying on resellers or a UGL. It's more expensive that way, but I know what I'm getting.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

There could be some underlying issues for the low test. Its up to you if you wanna follow thru with an endo. Could maybe find out why and may not need trt.

I was in the same situation in my late twenties. I wanted my low T fixed and decided to just go on trt. Didnt see everything thru. Kinda wish i did. Started with a trt doc and then went on doing it myself. Which i still do to this day. If you consider trt its for life no pct

 

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Welcome aboard.

I wouldn't self-medicate unless you've done a whole lot of research - and I mean much more than lurking on a forum or two for a little while - and have the means to track your progress through routine bloodwork.

If you have insurance, which you look to have, I'd keep working with them to find a solution. TRT can be a lifelong decision. If a disorder may be causing borderline low test levels, I'd be looking to correct it first and seeing where your natty levels can go. If your docs exhaust all other avenues and recommend TRT, then you can decide whether to do it under a doctor's supervision or on your own. Personally, I prefer pharma for TRT instead of relying on resellers or a UGL. It's more expensive that way, but I know what I'm getting.

Ok, thanks. Think I will go the endo path to see if I can correct before TRT. Then I guess its TRT 4-life or UGL cycles.

There could be some underlying issues for the low test. Its up to you if you wanna follow thru with an endo. Could maybe find out why and may not need trt.

I was in the same situation in my late twenties. I wanted my low T fixed and decided to just go on trt. Didnt see everything thru. Kinda wish i did. Started with a trt doc and then went on doing it myself. Which i still do to this day. If you consider trt its for life no pct

Thanks for the input, gonna go with the endo visit to see what can be done.

 

[Sk8man101]

Welcome brother, you came to the right place.

I'm no doctor but doing a cycle doesn't make since to me.
You have low t without a doubt. What you do next will depend on your goals.

1: If your goals are to get your natural production of test back into the normal range DO NOT take any synthetic test. Blast Hcg and then do a proper pharm grade pct either with your doctor's prescription, or on your own if you can't find a good doctor.

2: If your goal is to start on test c and do a 'cycle' your natural production of testosterone will plummet. At this point you will not need pct because you will probably have to stay on TRT for the rest of your life because it is unlikely you will fully recover to normal levels after your cycle.

 

[Sk8man101]

Ok, thanks. Think I will go the endo path to see if I can correct before TRT. Then I guess its TRT 4-life or UGL cycles.

So your using the term "cycle"
In your situation Blasting and Cruising (B&C) would be a better term.

Cycling is when you come off test/anabolics completly after each cycle using PCT.

B&C is when you stay on a low dose of test year round with no Pct.

Edit: Sorry op I don't mean to tell you shit you probably already know haha.

 

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Welcome brother, you came to the right place.

I'm no doctor but doing a cycle doesn't make since to me.
You have low t without a doubt. What you do next will depend on your goals.

1: If your goals are to get your natural production of test back into the normal range DO NOT take any synthetic test. Blast Hcg and then do a proper pharm grade pct either with your doctor's prescription, or on your own if you can't find a good doctor.

2: If your goal is to start on test c and do a 'cycle' your natural production of testosterone will plummet. At this point you will not need pct because you will probably have to stay on TRT for the rest of your life because it is unlikely you will fully recover to normal levels after your cycle.

So your using the term "cycle"
In your situation Blasting and Cruising (B&C) would be a better term.

Cycling is when you come off test/anabolics completly after each cycle using PCT.

B&C is when you stay on a low dose of test year round with no Pct.

Edit: Sorry op I don't mean to tell you shit you probably already know haha.

Completely appreciate the input, whether I knew it or not already. The more opinions I hear, the better I can adjust my plan accordingly. I've made an appointment with an endo so we'll start from there and see her thoughts. It sounds like either way if I intend to not stay at my current levels, whichever path I decide will be a life long one.