New middle aged member

[vulpes]

Hi,
I stumbled across this great site as part of my research and have lurked a little.

I am early 50's and have never taken PEDs but I think I might like to. Want to find out more.

I am late to the party in terms of sport. I have a very physical job and had a fun time in the outdoors over the years but now I would like to run. I am just starting a bit late at a time when the extremities are weakening from age anyway and recovery is slower. That on top of wear and tear from the job have left me taking baby steps to avoid injury. Its been over 2 years now and I am starting to think -could I get more strength to avoid the injuries, then actually train properly like other keen guys my age?

I know what a good runner does -I have runners in the family who have represented the country. I have a kid who is a regional champion and a sibling who has treated dozens of Olympians for their problems but then there is me, letting the side down, stuck doing 20 miles a week and only a few harder sessions. That's a long way from where I started 27 months ago (fat and with chronic over use injuries decades old, probably couldn't run half a mile) but its not where I wish I could be. Is there a way to get where I want to go before I am too old to do it anyway?

No serious runner I have met wants to openly talk PEDs, so I am here to work it out.

My natural test is Ok -525 ng/dl and I would like to keep it that way but could I run a small cycle of something, get stronger but hardly any heavier, recover properly and then push the training? That's what I am here to try to find out.

 

[Grey Spartan]

Your in the right place brother. TONS of information and lots of people with the same amount of experience. I was in the same boat as you when I started TRT. From my experience you could start at TRT and add some HGH to accomplish your goal. You will recomp your body (loose fat and gain muscle) while enhancing recovery time. Then, your mindset and body will determine how hard to push the training. Good luck with your goals.

 

[vulpes]

Thanks. HGH looks quite expensive, is MK677 a cheaper solution or is it just not as good?

When you say TRT are you thinking a long term cruise (which scares me a bit at this stage because of the idea of shrinking my balls long term) or a low dose test cycle? Maybe I just have to face up to the risks but anything I can do to reduce the risk of long term suppression, the better.

I very much appreciate any advice.

 

[readalot]

Hi,
I stumbled across this great site as part of my research and have lurked a little.

I am early 50's and have never taken PEDs but I think I might like to. Want to find out more.

I am late to the party in terms of sport. I have a very physical job and had a fun time in the outdoors over the years but now I would like to run. I am just starting a bit late at a time when the extremities are weakening from age anyway and recovery is slower. That on top of wear and tear from the job have left me taking baby steps to avoid injury. Its been over 2 years now and I am starting to think -could I get more strength to avoid the injuries, then actually train properly like other keen guys my age?

I know what a good runner does -I have runners in the family who have represented the country. I have a kid who is a regional champion and a sibling who has treated dozens of Olympians for their problems but then there is me, letting the side down, stuck doing 20 miles a week and only a few harder sessions. That's a long way from where I started 27 months ago (fat and with chronic over use injuries decades old, probably couldn't run half a mile) but its not where I wish I could be. Is there a way to get where I want to go before I am too old to do it anyway?

No serious runner I have met wants to openly talk PEDs, so I am here to work it out.

My natural test is Ok -525 ng/dl and I would like to keep it that way but could I run a small cycle of something, get stronger but hardly any heavier, recover properly and then push the training? That's what I am here to try to find out.

Welcome to Meso!

 

[iris]

HGH looks quite expensive, is MK677 a cheaper solution

No. Don't bother

 

[Grey Spartan]

Thanks. HGH looks quite expensive,

If you get it from a TRT clinic or a pharmacy without insurance its ridiculously expensive. But, once you have your research done checkout the steroid underground section of MESO and see what the other members recommend. I think you will find the prices and quality much better.

Avoid all MK677 type weird shit. You want legitimate proven compounds with actual human trials and studies that conclude "yup it works bro, you can prescribe it"

 

[vulpes]

I had a look and I see what you mean. HGH might be just within reach cost wise. Also see a lot negative said about MK677.

So would you recommend starting with only the HGH just to be clear about what it does before adding anything? Start at 2 ius, rise to 3 or 4 maybe? If all is well then add a low dose of test? or run HGH, allow a wash out period, then think about test in isolation?