Same experience all round. Agree with everything you stated.
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cousinmuscles
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After starting AAS I got severe cramps after a hard training session, at night the muscles I trained would go frenzy and I had to manually stretch them out while in agonizing pain (in the middle of the night). I started magnesium bisglycinate and it worked wonders.
I also work a physically demanding and stressful job, 7 days a week, 10-12h per day. So electrolytes are being burned easily.
I take 1g magnesium bisglycinate with each meal, 4 meals per day. That's 800mg elemental magnesium and I don't have issues with cramping ever again. I salt my meals too but haven't tried supplementing potassium, although I track it and eat potatoes for carbs for many of the meals of the week to keep my daily potassium at around 4-8g per day.
I also work a physically demanding and stressful job, 7 days a week, 10-12h per day. So electrolytes are being burned easily.
I take 1g magnesium bisglycinate with each meal, 4 meals per day. That's 800mg elemental magnesium and I don't have issues with cramping ever again. I salt my meals too but haven't tried supplementing potassium, although I track it and eat potatoes for carbs for many of the meals of the week to keep my daily potassium at around 4-8g per day.
Ateam2023
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Taurine is known to help with spasms , muscle twitches etc , plus a whole bunch of other awesome benefits if you look it up you'll see.
cousinmuscles
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Thanks. I do take taurine, 10g pre workout, to help with my back pumps. I train powerlifting so sometimes deep into a training cycle there is so much fatigue built up that the back pumps have me lying on the floor after deadlifts/squats. Taurine helps shorten the recovery time so I am back to normal after I have managed to rerack the plates lol.
Its also About electrolite balance i get insane cramps when i dont eat sodium for half a day
With your current stack, your magnesium demand has definitely spiked. Retatrutide and HGH heavily mess with your water - electrolyte balance, and Testosterone ramps up metabolic turnover, so the 400mg you're currently taking might indeed be falling short.
However, jumping straight to 1g of elemental magnesium might be overkill. I’d recommend aiming for 600 - 700mg as your target. Going higher right away often leads to diminishing returns or digestive issues that actually flush out other electrolytes.
Your body has a limited processing capacity. If you drop too much in one go, it won't reach your blood. To make it worth your money, aim for a maximum of 200 - 250mg of elemental magnesium per dose. Split your total intake into 3 or 4 servings throughout the day.
Very high magnesium doses can start to compete with calcium. At 600 - 700mg, you get the benefits without risking the muscle flatness or lethargy that can sometimes happen when you push toward 1g without balancing other minerals.
Best forms:
1.Magnesium Taurate
Given the Retatrutide and HGH, this is your best bet. Taurine supports heart stability and helps manage blood pressure, which is crucial on your cycle. Additionally, taurine improves insulin sensitivity - a huge bonus since HGH can often push your blood sugar up. This form does the most heavy lifting for your health on this specific stack.
2.Bisglycinate
This is magnesium bound to glycine. It’s the gentlest on the digestive tract - even at higher doses, your pipes should stay steady. Glycine also has a calming effect on the central nervous system, so it’s perfect for your evening doses to improve sleep quality and recovery.
3. Citrate is okay, but it’s highly osmotic - it pulls water into the gut. At 700mg+ per day, if you rely mostly on citrate, you’re asking for a disaster in your pants. Keep it as a backup or a small portion of your total intake.
One last thing - since Reta promotes sodium excretion, make sure you aren't just hammering magnesium while neglecting sodium and potassium. If those are low, no amount of magnesium will fix the cramps or the flat feeling.
However, jumping straight to 1g of elemental magnesium might be overkill. I’d recommend aiming for 600 - 700mg as your target. Going higher right away often leads to diminishing returns or digestive issues that actually flush out other electrolytes.
Your body has a limited processing capacity. If you drop too much in one go, it won't reach your blood. To make it worth your money, aim for a maximum of 200 - 250mg of elemental magnesium per dose. Split your total intake into 3 or 4 servings throughout the day.
Very high magnesium doses can start to compete with calcium. At 600 - 700mg, you get the benefits without risking the muscle flatness or lethargy that can sometimes happen when you push toward 1g without balancing other minerals.
Best forms:
1.Magnesium Taurate
Given the Retatrutide and HGH, this is your best bet. Taurine supports heart stability and helps manage blood pressure, which is crucial on your cycle. Additionally, taurine improves insulin sensitivity - a huge bonus since HGH can often push your blood sugar up. This form does the most heavy lifting for your health on this specific stack.
2.Bisglycinate
This is magnesium bound to glycine. It’s the gentlest on the digestive tract - even at higher doses, your pipes should stay steady. Glycine also has a calming effect on the central nervous system, so it’s perfect for your evening doses to improve sleep quality and recovery.
3. Citrate is okay, but it’s highly osmotic - it pulls water into the gut. At 700mg+ per day, if you rely mostly on citrate, you’re asking for a disaster in your pants. Keep it as a backup or a small portion of your total intake.
One last thing - since Reta promotes sodium excretion, make sure you aren't just hammering magnesium while neglecting sodium and potassium. If those are low, no amount of magnesium will fix the cramps or the flat feeling.
LMNT is solid because it provides a clinical dose of sodium needed to counteract Retatrutide's diuretic effect, but it's overpriced. You can diy the exact electrolyte profile at home for pennies using pure salts.
700-1000ml water
2.5g table salt (~1000mg sodium)
Potassium Chloride 400mg (~200mg elemental)
Magnesium malate - aim for 150-200mg Elemental Magnesium.
Never chug potassium. It can disrupt heart rhythm. Sip this mix over 60-90 minutes intra-workout.
HGH increases sodium retention. If you notice swelling or high BP, cut the salt dose to 1.25g immediately, but keep the Potassium and Magnesium stable.
Liter O' Test
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yeah looking back on tirz, i think i wasnt getting as full as I should have been.
and my refeeds barely add anything to the scale, sodium related and probably carb related.
my regular meals add up to around 250mg magnesium
and I take 400mg magnesium from magnesium glcyinate before bed
Ive been doing a 2:1 potassium to salt ratio lately so if im a little low I'll supplement with a tsp of nosalt.
I think 1:1 is best for pumps though
syuri
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Yeah, natriuresis is super common and extremely untalked about on GLPs. They very much make you pee out an extreme amount of sodium. Reta moreso due to the Glucagon.
I agree with the 1:1 ratio, I’m on Eplerenone too so I have to supplement waayyy more sodium
RoxasShadow
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How do you know if you need potassium? I am cutting on reta and gh and my RHR is ~61bpm and try to add salt to my water bottles (around 5-6L per day). Never had cramps or anything tbh, even though my source of potassium currently are quite non-existent too.
ThreeSix
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this is literally just heavy metal testing and nothing else.
Did you ever see minerals tested by suppstores ?
It’s normal not to test dosing. Like over-here Magnesiumlactaat 400g poeder
Ateam2023
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ThreeSix
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If I want to buy any raw supplement and want to know the exact ingredients beforehand, you better tell me what's inside your white powder with certainty or im not buying. some sellers get you the right lab tests while some don't.
with magnesium citrate it's either Trimagnesiumcitrate or Magnesiumhydrogencitrate while I prefer the latter.
I need proof if I buy any white powder that could be anything really. If you can't prove it, it makes me think you didn't even test it to begin with.
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Ateam2023
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That's the main reason why you have to buy from a reputable source because like you said it could be anything. For instance, I bought some magnesium glycinate from bulk supplements and it's got a very trace amount of magnesium oxide in it, when I press them and they said it was just in the manufacturing process blah blah blah , so I don't know
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