Major PIP

Well then expound upon your "knowledge" of PIP, Mr "experience", and don't concern yourself with any scientific evidence bc that doesn't matter, for those insular Meso members who prefer to live on an island, lol!
Who are you talking to?
 
Well then expound upon your "knowledge" of PIP, Mr "experience", and don't concern yourself with any scientific evidence bc that doesn't matter, for those insular Meso members who prefer to live on an island, lol!
PIP is most commonly the result of either dirty gear, too much ba per vial or too much hormone per concentration of oil. Ethyl oleate can counteract Pip from high dosed gear however EO is caustic and not good for the body.

PIP can also come from injecting too fast or just hitting a virgin site. In his case I'm guessing the phenylpropionate ester along with the combination of a bad injection had caused this. Infections are usually hot to the touch and swollen and don't go from a scale of 8/10 pain to a 6/10 pain in a matter of 1-2 days. It's actually the total opposite. Most infections will clear up on their own but if it's been 3-4 days and progressively getting worse then an antibiotic is needed.

In such a case dioxicyclen or tetracycline should be used. If one has no means of doctors care or afraid of insurance issues / lack of patient doctor relationship then they can get tetracycline from a store that sells fish aquarium supplies and buy tetracyclene. Start at 1,000mg a day for the first 2 days, if it doesn't begin to subside then bump to 1,500mg the NXT day-2, if it still doesn't subside then see a Doctor. However seeing a Doctor should be the first and best option if they can.

In my 16 years of use I've never had to have an abscess drained and probably had only 2-3 minor abscesses. In most cases PIP in fact was all that it was and it just took time to go away.
 
Well then expound upon your "knowledge" of PIP, Mr "experience", and don't concern yourself with any scientific evidence bc that doesn't matter, for those insular Meso members who prefer to live on an island, lol!
See there Doc, that's where we are not cut from the same cloth here. I give solutions to problems and share real life experience, not the textbook shit you simply regurgitate while insulting people at the same time. Real recognizes real, ppl are starting to see through your bullshit a lot more lately, you can bet on that one
 
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PIP is most commonly the result of either dirty gear, too much ba per vial or too much hormone per concentration of oil. Ethyl oleate can counteract Pip from high dosed gear however EO is caustic and not good for the body.

PIP can also come from injecting too fast or just hitting a virgin site. In his case I'm guessing the phenylpropionate ester along with the combination of a bad injection had caused this. Infections are usually hot to the touch and swollen and don't go from a scale of 8/10 pain to a 6/10 pain in a matter of 1-2 days. It's actually the total opposite. Most infections will clear up on their own but if it's been 3-4 days and progressively getting worse then an antibiotic is needed.

In such a case dioxicyclen or tetracycline should be used. If one has no means of doctors care or afraid of insurance issues / lack of patient doctor relationship then they can get tetracycline from a store that sells fish aquarium supplies and buy tetracyclene. Start at 1,000mg a day for the first 2 days, if it doesn't begin to subside then bump to 1,500mg the NXT day-2, if it still doesn't subside then see a Doctor. However seeing a Doctor should be the first and best option if they can.

In my 16 years of use I've never had to have an abscess drained and probably had only 2-3 minor abscesses. In most cases PIP in fact was all that it was and it just took time to go away.
When you got those infections did you use that fish stuff. Ha
Sounds like I'm asking if you ate fish food.
 
Pain scale of 8/10 is horrific pain, that pain level would have had you call 911.

Please learn to rate pain levels responsibility.

If I were to say my pain was a 2/10 then we wouldn't even need to discuss this topic.

We are talking about pain in a specific muscle. So yes, an 8/10 is and was accurate. It is fucking excruciating.

Update,

The quad injection ended up being as bad as the glute injection. 48hours later and I am still having trouble walking normally. I just don't get it?!? This is such an abnormal experience for me.

I am just going to have to try a different source to see if that helps. Thanks to all who chimed in.
 
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If I were to say my pain was a 2/10 then we wouldn't even need to discuss this topic.

We are talking about pain in a specific muscle. So yes, an 8/10 is and was accurate. It is fucking excruciating.

Update,

The quad injection ended up being as bad as the glute injection. 48hours later and I am still having trouble walking normally. I just don't get it?!? This is such an abnormal experience for me.

I am just going to have to try a different source to see if that helps. Thanks to all who chimed in.
I was the same way with 2cc of Sustsnon250. My first cycle I shot it in the quad and it was so bad it kept me up all night long. Wasn't tired at all. Then, my leg was so irritated by it that it was useless! I couldn't walk on it at all. Next week it was the next leg. When I finally got to it in the glute I could walk but sitting was more painful then any leg day. But I also liked it. Im sick in the head like that. I also do legs twice a week and never have cheat days. Lol
No, really though you'll get use to it. Just keep it in the butt area and your body will get use to it. Mine did after week 6 but that's your choice.
 
See there Doc, that's where we are not cut from the same cloth here. I give solutions to problems and share real life experience, not the textbook shit you simply regurgitate while insulting people at the same time. Real recognizes real, ppl are starting to see through your bullshit a lot more lately, you can bet on that one

Your as FOS as always, so your "experience" theories on PIP are, so enlightening, lol!

I wonder why you didn't mention the GEAR as a potential cause, unless all UGL products are created equally NOT!

Your gear "experiences" are skewed bc of the forum you run and YOUR access to AAS!

And that's one of several contributing factors "bros" overlook, they see only what they want to, PITY .....
 
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When you got those infections did you use that fish stuff. Ha
Sounds like I'm asking if you ate fish food.

Considering the resistance to Cycline class of ABX, Tetracycline "fish food" is just another bro science remedy for what any wise fella would do when confronted with an infection, see a HCP!
 
Ethyl oleate can counteract Pip from high dosed gear however EO is caustic and not good for the body.
Many users have a reaction to EO. I can't use it, and after brewing for years I see no reason to use it unless someone wants 500mg/m concentration, and in that case they deserve pip.
 
I wonder why you didn't mention the GEAR as a potential cause, unless all UGL products are created equally NOT!
Don't use gear that causes PIP. If it does there is something wrong with either the gear or injection technique. We don't know shit about UGL's and what is in their gear. Counterfeit euro gear is another problem. We know even less about that.

Bottom line is use gear that doesn't hurt :)
 
Thanks guys. Now I'll never use anything with pip again! ...Assholes [emoji6] good info Paul. It just dawned on me that I make 300mg/ml and don't get pip. Your right about using the EO.
 
In case you happen to give AF...

SQS labs stopped production of NPP until they can figure out the cause of the PIP. Apparently this has become an important issue for the manufacturer. I knew I wasn't full of shit! :D
 
Ok hate to jump in the middle of fight night.

But I don't think anybody has asked op what CONCENTRATION the npp or test was.
All op said was the amount of liquid pinned.

I would think that would be the first question asked.

Edit: Correction @Demondosage did kind of address it but still no one has asked op yet.
 
Ok hate to jump in the middle of fight night.

But I don't think anybody has asked op what CONCENTRATION the npp or test was.
All op said was the amount of liquid pinned.

I would think that would be the first question asked.

Edit: Correction @Demondosage did kind of address it but still no one has asked op yet.

Soooo.... are you asking ? Or shall I? [emoji51]
 
Why would that matter?
I've blasted 2 ml of npp @ 150 mg/ml
With zero pip. That honestly shouldn't make a difference.
I'm blasting high concentrate gear right now with zero pip.
My mon-fri shot consists of 1100mg of gear in a 3ml shot. NO PIP...
Bottom line his gear is shit!

Agree fully!

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Why would that matter?
I've blasted 2 ml of npp @ 150 mg/ml
With zero pip. That honestly shouldn't make a difference.
I'm blasting high concentrate gear right now with zero pip.
My mon-fri shot consists of 1100mg of gear in a 3ml shot. NO PIP...
Bottom line his gear is shit!
So your saying if his test is 500mg/ml and his npp is 200mg/ml and he gets pip when he pins 3mls of it, It shouldn't matter?

Last time I checked high concentration AAS gives users pip.
 
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