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Making Orals from Raw Powder
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bighunanballs
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tablets youll need a press. caps you can just use a capping form. capping is a tedious time consuming pain in the ass and definitely not worth it if you value your time. the cost in caps/tablets is manhours involved not really the raws. if youre a poor person and value your time at minimum wage then sure, capping is great. otherwise just get a mortar/pestle and make a suspension.
How time consuming are we talking?
bighunanballs
Well-known Member
Just imagine the steps involved loading 100 gelcaps, finding the volume or preloading with filler, then removing the filler and geometrically diluting 1 gram into roughly 1/4 cup of filler. Google geometric dilution that is what's necessary for proper dosing. Just mixing shit in a Tupperware isn't gonna do.
Or you can buy some from the Chinese vendors selling tabs cheap. There are some here who don’t care much about Chinese laws and still offer oral tabs.
Who?
Rippidy Dippidy
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JY Pharma
TheHaus88
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Unless you're about to drop some serious money on equipment or spend some serious time on inconsistent under/over dosed hb caps imo oral suspension is the best option and for many reasons.
You will have more confidence knowing that you're getting as accurate as you can with your equipment to avoid low dosed or fake gear. It helps knowing what every raw looks taste and smells like. It's harder to mix up raws of Primo or Anavar when you know what you're looking at. Raw or oral suspension tadalifil doesn't tast like enclomiphene.
Even with the under dosed tabs that sometimes make it into the market from ugls oral suspension can be more cost effective but ugl tabs are convenient if you can get them from a reputable seller, keep in mind that even billion dollar companies make mistakes in mass batches but my small batch of suspension is pretty accurate.
An accurate scale, magnetic stirrer, oral solution of your choice, while sometimes you have to grind raws into a fine powder you can make almost anything in less than an hour start to finish.
My irl gym sources are still making and selling hb suspension and that takes time when they have access to the same Chinese sellers. They would probably make more money by selling 0.10-0.30 cent tablets for $1-3 each unless it's a legal thing and/or they want accurate doses.
Good luck
You will have more confidence knowing that you're getting as accurate as you can with your equipment to avoid low dosed or fake gear. It helps knowing what every raw looks taste and smells like. It's harder to mix up raws of Primo or Anavar when you know what you're looking at. Raw or oral suspension tadalifil doesn't tast like enclomiphene.
Even with the under dosed tabs that sometimes make it into the market from ugls oral suspension can be more cost effective but ugl tabs are convenient if you can get them from a reputable seller, keep in mind that even billion dollar companies make mistakes in mass batches but my small batch of suspension is pretty accurate.
An accurate scale, magnetic stirrer, oral solution of your choice, while sometimes you have to grind raws into a fine powder you can make almost anything in less than an hour start to finish.
My irl gym sources are still making and selling hb suspension and that takes time when they have access to the same Chinese sellers. They would probably make more money by selling 0.10-0.30 cent tablets for $1-3 each unless it's a legal thing and/or they want accurate doses.
Good luck
Anyone have a guide on how to make oral suspension?
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TheHaus88
Member
I've written one and posted it on here but not gonna go on a hunt so here's what I would do.
Buy raws
Buy mortar and pestle
Buy magnetic stirrer and hot plate
Buy 100ml beaker
Buy 30ml droppers
Buy scale with .000 mg range
Buy aluminum foil
Buy oral suspension liquid
Buy 60ml syringe or graduated cylinder
Use phone calculator for math
For example I'll use Tadalifil @20mg and Anavar @30mg
Take foil place on scale. 30ml of Tadalifil @20mg is 600mg. Scoop out 600mg of raw powder on the scale. Then put the 600mg of raw powder into a glass beaker. Measure 30ml of oral suspension liquid with a syringe or graduated cylinder. Put suspension liquid into the beaker with the raw powder. Place a magnetic stir stick into the beaker. Place beaker on hot plate. DO NOT USE HEAT. Stir on speed low or 300 revolutions for 15-30 minutes or until solution looks fully mixed. Don't over stir. Refrigerate.
Repeat same steps for Anavar but first grind up 900mg of raw Anavar powder with the mortar and pestle.
Not all raws will dissolve on their own and require grinding into a fine powder to properly mix. Not all raws will mix. Not all raws should be suspended.
After 90 days I throw out all mixed and leftover suspension and mix a fresh batch.
I like the stuff on Amazon that is basically the same stuff from the pharmacy but other types of suspension liquids are available. Do your research and find what is available to you. I'll default to this post in the future.
Super helpful, thanks!
How did you come up with these measurements/ dosages?
Planning on only doing Tadalifil, Anavar & Winstrol
I think I get it, was overthinking. So,
30ml of Tadalifil @20mg is 600mg
.6 grams(600mg) Raw Powder
30ml Oral suspension liquid like - Ora-Plus
One 30ml bottle contains 600mg total
600mg/ 30ml = 20mg per ml
Same for Var only use the Mortar/ pestle
Instead of the Mortar/ Pestle - why not use a coffee grinder?
TheHaus88
Member
Math and what is usually available in the public space plus halflife and my cycle plan.
They have many sizes of dropper bottles, for example I use 30ml and 60ml droppers bottles. It depends on the volume of liquid and the dosage.
1ml is 20mg of medication or 10mg or 5mg or 75mg.
If I'm making two 30ml bottles of Winstrol @50mg I need 60ml of liquid. 60ml x 50mg = 3,000mg of raw powder or 3g.
Typically Cialis is dosed @5mg per day or 20mg twice per week. You can make them as small or large as you want.
Tadalifil @5mg/20mg/40mg
Winstrol @10mg/20mg/40mg
Anavar @10mg/50mg
I don't recommend blends, none of this is advice and what you do has nothing to do with me.
I taste all raws. I am a drug test kit. I don't need to test what compounds I have or put a label on it. I know what they look smell and taste like so things never get mixed up. I can crush up a UGL pill put it on my tongue and know if it's the real deal.
If I'm running more than 1 oral I can typically tell by the color and consistency of the liquid. Tadalifil turns almost gray compared to Proviron or Anadrol or Anavar or Enclomiphene with the liquid that I use. But it doesn't hurt to pull out a sharpie and put some indication on it. 1 2 3 A B C or shape or sticker.
TheHaus88
Member
Correct, you can use whatever you want. I prefer the mortar and pestle. I know that my partners won't be using it to crush garlic cloves or making coffee with my grinder. I'm very careful about homebrew and contamination. Which is why I pitch orals after 90days and 12 months on oils. It's not worth it for me to use old product when I can get new and fresh rotated regularly.
TheHaus88
Member
It's not 1000000% accurate but it's pretty close. I have the displacement chart somewhere but this will get you close enough. I always do a tiny bit over because not everything is perfect. 5% margin of error is acceptable.
Is my dick gonna be any softer on 19.5mg of Cialis vs 20.5mg?
I trust what I can make more than a gym bro who can't math or doesn't have real gear.
TheHaus88
Member
You're welcome
Detroitmonster
Member
What liquid are you mixing the raws with ?
