Mass Spectrometry Testing

[ironnut]

Hey guys, We all know that good ugls come and go and the only real way to know if gear is real and dosed right is to have it tested and not a labmax but the more expensive mass spectrometry. I am on a few other boards for different shit and we have group buys. I was thinking about starting a site just for gear that does there, but then i figured maybe we could just get it up and running here with my brothers at Meso.

What do we think about starting that up here, so that if a new source comes taunting his gear a group of us that are interested chip in to get the gear mass spec tested and the source agrees to a discount for the group. This would separate the pretenders from the real players. And Meso would be the place to come if you got good shit. It would be validated by testing and the best AS board on the internet.

I think it would be fucking awesome to know if you are shelling out a couple thousand of dollars for the more faked compounds like anavar, primo, masteron that you getting legit shit with no worries.

Also this way it would be affordable to test each batch and we would know when that ugl was going to shit as we all know they do eventually. But if this became standard practice and people stopped buying bunk shit that had no testing done it might change the way the ugl's operate.

Feel free to chime in, Thanks Bros

 

[rpbb]

Use the search function

 

[mercury]

This is very interesting but it draws attention of LE, you need go deep underground and keep your mouth shut.

If things very so easy and legal there would be hundreds of labs posting their testing services.

 

[manafest]

probably wouldn't work..People want good aas...People want top Quality....But do people want to spend money on actual tests that prove without a doubt good quality and dosed proper...My answer would be NO or it would be being done at this very instant all over the world where its legal...AAs tests are illegal in usa, other countries they arnt but everyone that's does aas isn't from usa..It could be done though in different countries I mean cmon lets face it , you buy gear from places its legal so im sure you could have it tested there....

 

[ironnut]

not an expert on it, but im sure some of the members here may have a connection with a lab we can get this done at, and yes it would be illegal as gear is illegal, so no the labs wouldn't advertise we test steroids. It would take some ground work and connections but it could be a game changer and definitely something worth looking into if anyone is familiar with the whole process.

 

[ironnut]

probably wouldn't work..People want good aas...People want top Quality....But do people want to spend money on actual tests that prove without a doubt good quality and dosed proper...My answer would be NO or it would be being done at this very instant all over the world where its legal...AAs tests are illegal in usa, other countries they arnt but everyone that's does aas isn't from usa..It could be done though in different countries I mean cmon lets face it , you buy gear from places its legal so im sure you could have it tested there....

you could have it tested but for most its not worth the cost, but if that cost is diveded into a group it becomes much more economical and begins to make sense. Unfortunately most people in this world only give a shit about themselves so it is cost prohibited. But as a group i think it could be done - i know id give $10-$20 bucks to know if im getting real shit. And with the discount the source provides you basically be getting it back.

 

[manafest]

you could have it tested but for most its not worth the cost, but if that cost is diveded into a group it becomes much more economical and begins to make sense. Unfortunately most people in this world only give a shit about themselves so it is cost prohibited. But as a group i think it could be done - i know id give $10-$20 bucks to know if im getting real shit. And with the discount the source provides you basically be getting it back.

Agree with you on the fact that most give a shit about themselves and only pretend to care and unwilling to do anything except make false accusations..

 

[jabrel3]

The idea is cool, but this would need to be done in private with a group of people you know or before you know it the Feds will kick in your door. Step 1 is so not be posting about it on public forum, I agree with Merc.

 

[redrum720]

This can and would work problem is how are we gonna know if the ugl is not giving us the good shit to test and selling the bad gear we might say Greg and get screwed at the end has happened before when a lab says test this and a.month later bunk gear

 

[ironnut]

This can and would work problem is how are we gonna know if the ugl is not giving us the good shit to test and selling the bad gear we might say Greg and get screwed at the end has happened before when a lab says test this and a.month later bunk gear

yeah that is an issue, that is why we would get several samples and do regular testing not saying it would be easy, but if we got a group of us to put our heads together we might be able to come up with some criteria, im just spitballing here and yes private is better i agree but just wanted to get everyone thoughts, maybe WKM that have been around for a while could run with it. Again just throwing out ideas and trying to make this ugl thing safer and more consistent for all

 

[Docd187123]

So you want free or discounted gear for doing the testing? I take this the same way I do others who take free or discounted test and give reviews. There's going to be bias involved.

 

[jabrel3]

I say anonymous testing is the only way to test, wether it's a group of people together or one person paying for it all.

 

[ironnut]

So you want free or discounted gear for doing the testing? I take this the same way I do others who take free or discounted test and give reviews. There's going to be bias involved.

NO! all i care about is having a way to do a group by so everyone can chip in to have the testing done, so everyone benefits from safer more consistent gear. If 100 people each put in $10 towards testing - that is way more doable than one person spending a thousand. for example..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

This would separate the pretenders from the real players. And Meso would be the place to come if you got good shit.

Meso isn't a source board in spite of the members that are determined to turn it into one. Your testing program would encourage more sources to come here and use Meso as a marketplace. Your idea would be more appropriate on a source forum.

 

[ironnut]

I see, duly noted. Maybe a separate website to do the group buys for mass spec testing for any members who are interested may work better.

 

[bullets69]

What about that bill roberts article about proton nmr testing? Seems like there's labs that charge $50 to run a sample and will just give you the raw data without any analysis.

 

[Dr JIM]

You locate a LEGIT analytical lab that will run ANY ASSAY worth while FOR FIFTY BUCKS, let us all know, lol!

 

[bullets69]

Well the whole idea in the article was that you don't tell them what your sample is and don't ask them to analyze the data, which they do offer for an additional cost, and then you are left you the task of interpreting the raw data.
If you just google search proton nmr testing you can find multiple labs that offer this service for 50$. It does seem that most of their customers are not individuals but businesses and some state they are DEA registered and that suggests they might report illegal activity. They do offer same day service.

 

[Dr JIM]

NMR spec will run 1 grand per sample on average, essentially only research labs have this capability (the machine cost $250 - $450 K), very limited availability, similar results (except structural/isomer identification) can be achieved using LC/MS and finally the sample MUST be of HIGH purity

 

[bullets69]

Yeah you would have to purify the sample but if you just google search proton nmr testing you can find multiple labs that will do it for $50.