Mass Spectrometry Testing

[Dr JIM]

Really!

Those FEES are based on an hourly charge which will range by 80-125 bucks PER HOUR.

And by the time they have cleaned the crap out of ANY sample esp those from UFL your total will easily eclipse $500 or even 1K depending upon the specific tests conducted.

Why don't you devote more time investigating the nonsense your spewing.

Your like many people whom believe performing legitimate and reproducible analytical testing on PEDs, AAS in particular, is analogous to putting money in a Coke machine,stick in a few quarters and out pops the results, sorry kido but you have NO IDEA, lol.

 

[bullets69]

No I do know what I'm talking about. I think you might be confusing Carbon 13 nmr with proton nmr. Proton nmr should take less than a half an hour. Carbon 13 nmr can take hours to get a good spectrum because only about 1% of carbon atoms weigh 13. http://chemtos.com/nmr-service.html
This is one of the labs I was looking at.
Purifying the sample is an issue but it is doable

 

[Dr JIM]

Purifying the sample takes time and a lot of it esp when UGL products are involved and it is NOT FREE nor will it be conducted for FIFTY bucks as you have stated!

 

[bullets69]

I mean you could an an extraction yourself. But in the article I was referring to on the front page of this website it was suggested you submit a sample of high concentration oil.

 

[bullets69]

4. SEPARATION TECHNIQUES Testosterone and its esters are generally encountered in one of three forms: tablets, suspensions or dissolved in oils. Isolation from tablets is achieved by direct extraction with chloroform or methylene chloride. Following evaporation of the solvent, the residue may be suitable for infrared identification or mass spectrometer identification in the case of multi-entity preparations. Isolation of the steroid(s) from suspensions is achieved by separating the liquid and drying the resultant powder. The powder is then analyzed similarly as above. Testosterone and its esters, when dissolved in an oil matrix, are impossible to identify by infrared and can cause fouling of other types of instrumentation. Solid-phase extraction is a simple and effective means to isolate the steroid(s) for identification. Approximately five to seven drops of the oil solution is dissolved in pet ether or hexanes and added to a solid-phase extraction cartridge filled with silica. After washing the cartridge with the same solvent, the steroid(s) are eluted from the cartridge with acetone and analyzed as above.

 

[Dr JIM]

4. SEPARATION TECHNIQUES Testosterone and its esters are generally encountered in one of three forms: tablets, suspensions or dissolved in oils. Isolation from tablets is achieved by direct extraction with chloroform or methylene chloride. Following evaporation of the solvent, the residue may be suitable for infrared identification or mass spectrometer identification in the case of multi-entity preparations. Isolation of the steroid(s) from suspensions is achieved by separating the liquid and drying the resultant powder. The powder is then analyzed similarly as above. Testosterone and its esters, when dissolved in an oil matrix, are impossible to identify by infrared and can cause fouling of other types of instrumentation. Solid-phase extraction is a simple and effective means to isolate the steroid(s) for identification. Approximately five to seven drops of the oil solution is dissolved in pet ether or hexanes and added to a solid-phase extraction cartridge filled with silica. After washing the cartridge with the same solvent, the steroid(s) are eluted from the cartridge with acetone and analyzed as above.

Golly gee I wish the chemist and the lab department I frequent on a regular basis were aware of these new techniques to separate AAS from their excipents, buffers, adulterants and or other crap found on the floor of clandestine labs.

I can only imagine how much money, time and effort we will save as a result of your enlightening 15min Google foray.

Fella until you actually perform the type of procedures this single paragraph is describing in GROSS DETAIL you have absolutely no idea of the degree of difficulty (and COST) involved, period.

 

[bullets69]

These procedures would fall under the category of basic laboratory techniques and I have done similar separations. I think the main problem with this though is that you would be lying to the lab you send the sample to get the nmr.