MAST P OR MAST E

[GFitKing2]

Yo Meso - wanted to see if I could get some feedback. I have looked around and most of the threads I found are pretty outdated. So I am running Test E and will be adding Masteron. The cycle will be 12+ weeks.

I will be doing 4-600mg a week. However Mast E is dosed at 250 and Mast P at 100.

Is the main difference just half life? Obviously for me pinning 2x a week would be much easier and dosing at 250mg is much easier to reach higher levels. Might try to hit 800mg last 4 week.

Do you guys have any feedback on Mast E? Would you prefer it over Mast P?

Clearly last few weeks of prep - id go Mast P but with 12+ weeks Mast E seems like a better option.

Just need some opinions!

Thanks Meso

 

[bob357sig]

I always say to keep things simple. Pinning a long ester test, go with a long ester compound. Why get on a schedule of pinning the test 2x week, and pinning something else eod. Now if you were pinning say test P, then I would go with the mastP. And yes: different compounds that have both a short and long ester are the same except for half-life. Some people say short esters cause less water retention then long but that has always been up to debate.

 

[GFitKing2]

I always say to keep things simple. Pinning a long ester test, go with a long ester compound. Why get on a schedule of pinning the test 2x week, and pinning something else eod. Now if you were pinning say test P, then I would go with the mastP. And yes: different compounds that have both a short and long ester are the same except for half-life. Some people say short esters cause less water retention then long but that has always been up to debate.

Yea I am running Test E - So its been a pain doing Mast P but I heard Mast P was better so I went with P - but honestly I am starting to think Mast E will just be so much easier -have you ever ran Mast e?

 

[bob357sig]

Yea I am running Test E - So its been a pain doing Mast P but I heard Mast P was better so I went with P - but honestly I am starting to think Mast E will just be so much easier -have you ever ran Mast e?

I personally have never ran any mast. It is in future plans, I have to loose some body fat before it would be worth it for me to run. I was speaking mostly about esters in general. I have close friends who have ran everything under the sun lol, guys I trust.

 

[kosp]

I am currently running 400mg weekly of Mast E along with 500mg Test C, 2 weeks into it.

I am not low bodyfat (It´s on the way, waist is already going down) so I would like to disprove the myth of Masteron doing nothing if you´re not lean.

EDIT
I simply chose Mast E instead of P because I would get sick of pinning.

 

[T&H]

They're the same compound, different ester. Just run E since you're already running a long ester.

/thread.

 

[GFitKing2]

I am currently running 400mg weekly of Mast E along with 500mg Test C, 2 weeks into it.

I am not low bodyfat (It´s on the way, waist is already going down) so I would like to disprove the myth of Masteron doing nothing if you´re not lean.

EDIT
I simply chose Mast E instead of P because I would get sick of pinning.

I am about 7% BF and noticed Mast P I am entering my second week. It's pretty quick when your lean. Monday I should start Mast E so I will see in another 2-3 weeks if I retain what I am feeling and how I look. I will deff post here.

 

[cmK9s33]

Guys, to piggyback this topic, how long after beginning use should one expect each ester to begin exerting its effects? Obviously, prop will reach its saturation and (presumably) begin exerting its effects faster that enanthate will. But can anyone say how much faster?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Well, prop will saturate like 3x as fast as e.

 

[Freakmidd]

I am currently running 400mg weekly of Mast E along with 500mg Test C, 2 weeks into it.

I am not low bodyfat (It´s on the way, waist is already going down) so I would like to disprove the myth of Masteron doing nothing if you´re not lean.

EDIT
I simply chose Mast E instead of P because I would get sick of pinning.

@kosp
I'm curious to know how this cycle works out for you as I am preparing to run something similar..

 

[kosp]

@kosp
I'm curious to know how this cycle works out for you as I am preparing to run something similar..

Nevermind, coronavirus pissed my cycle off. I stopped pinning. In summer I will restart.

 

[kosp]

@kosp
I'm curious to know how this cycle works out for you as I am preparing to run something similar..

But 2.5 weeks into it and already hard and veiny as fuck, even being a fatass like I am. And this is not because of the test lol

 

[kosp]

By the way,

2.5 weeks pinning 500 testC + 400 Mast E, do I need SERMs after clearing compounds?

I used HCG for 1.5 weeks.

 

[Freakmidd]

Nevermind, coronavirus pissed my cycle off. I stopped pinning. In summer I will restart.

Shitty..
I am hesitant to start this cycle myself, for the same reason..

 

[Sven_Northman]

By the way,

2.5 weeks pinning 500 testC + 400 Mast E, do I need SERMs after clearing compounds?

I used HCG for 1.5 weeks.

Yes. Natural production is definitely shut down. It will take about 21 days for the test to clear after last pin. You could pin 500 IU of HCG at day 11 eod. Totally optional.

Then on day 21 take clomid and nolva. I wouldn't do any crazy high doses. I'd say 30-40 clomid and 20 Nova for two weeks. Then wait another 2 weeks and go get bloods. I assume you already have these things on hand?

 

[Turbo charged]

They're the same compound, different ester. Just run E since you're already running a long ester.

/thread.

Totally wrong they provide much different effects just like tren e and tren ace. Mast e is not even used in bodybuilding circles anymore. Mast p You only need to run it 6 weeks after that gains stop. Switch to another compound keep body changing long cycles of same compound is waste.

 

[T&H]

Totally wrong they provide much different effects just like tren e and tren ace. Mast e is not even used in bodybuilding circles anymore. Mast p You only need to run it 6 weeks after that gains stop. Switch to another compound keep body changing long cycles of same compound is waste.

@Mac11wildcat , is what this guy is saying true? I know P is slightly stronger mg for mg but entirely different effects?

 

[kosp]

Shitty..
I am hesitant to start this cycle myself, for the same reason..

Yes. Natural production is definitely shut down. It will take about 21 days for the test to clear after last pin. You could pin 500 IU of HCG at day 11 eod. Totally optional.

Then on day 21 take clomid and nolva. I wouldn't do any crazy high doses. I'd say 30-40 clomid and 20 Nova for two weeks. Then wait another 2 weeks and go get bloods. I assume you already have these things on hand?

I have 60 x 20mg of tamoxifen from local pharma. This time I won't do clomid, I think is not too important.

HCG yes definitely a good idea to use one more bottle of 1500 until compounds clearing.

Thanks.

 

[SomeRandoGuy]

@Mac11wildcat , is what this guy is saying true? I know P is slightly stronger mg for mg but entirely different effects?

Mac will have the definitive word on this but having studied up extensively on these two my understanding is they are the same drug with a different ester.

Masteron was the brand name for Drostanolone Proprionate and then the enathanate ester of Drostanolone was developed. Same drug but technically only one is named “Masteron”.

 

[Turbo charged]

Mac will have the definitive word on this but having studied up extensively on these two my understanding is they are the same drug with a different ester.

Masteron was the brand name for Drostanolone Proprionate and then the enathanate ester of Drostanolone was developed. Same drug but technically only one is named “Masteron”.

Yes it's the same drug but the ester makes the body respond differently to it. On tren ace to tren e the body takes on 2 different looks. And for those that say they look just the same on e than on ace at end of cycle is bullshit. Body even shows different side effects on e than ace. Timing is compounds can show different gains and makes the body react differently to it.No serious competition body builder uses mast e anymore they use prop.