Masteron as a growth promoter

Don’t want to jack dudes thread but for The Who have done both what do you like more primo or mast and why?
 
Don’t want to jack dudes thread but for The Who have done both what do you like more primo or mast and why?
I went from 300 primo to 600 mast. I felt less irritable on double of mast than the primo. My dick was also working with that high of mast.

Cholesterol was pretty much the same.

Even at a high bf, primo gave me a different look which is a little weird to say
 
Interested in this. Someone tag type2
Does Masteron really "keep bloat down" and "dry out" a body? Or is this just bro science?

Also... how can Masteron help with aggression and cause hair loss? Its way less androgenic then test. I mean it was made to be used on women...
Yes, it does this by preventing estrogen uptake into cells. This is not SERM-like action, but more analogous to Epistane action, where tissue-level estrogen modulation occurs (SERMs act antagonistically at the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary). As a brief tangent, Epistane's non-methylated counterpart (epitiostanol) is used clinically in Japan. At a 20 mg weekly dosage epitiostanol, considered an anti-estrogen agent, it was shown to be more effective than Masteron (at 50 mg weekly) in treatment of gynecomastia.

Estrogen generally serves to increase fluid retention (bloat) by central and peripheral actions, including on the RAAS, electrolyte channels, and even on thirst/water balance regulation.

Mast I doubt "helps" with aggression meaningfully, in fact, it seems to be slightly more aggression-promoting than Primo. Besides this, there is little distinction functionally between the two drugs.

Mast and hair loss, well, we've discussed this before @ItsDaBoii - nobody knows its relative potency to induce hair loss, but it's almost certainly less than DHT's, and perhaps greater or less than Winstrol's. Big unknown. In any event, usually testosterone is the culprit (everyone seems to refuse to believe this; bUt BiOiDeNtIcAl.. to which I say, ever see a hair-loss prone man that's completely bald before the age of 40, despite zero AAS use?) for hair loss in any stack. Few things induce androgenic alopecia like DHT "straight to" the scalp, as you see because of its high 5α-reductase expression & DHT's (the 5α-reductase product of testosterone) potency in scalp to induce hair loss.
 
Atleast from my stance,
I wanted to say it helps create aggression, it's good and bad in a way. Great in the gym as I feel like I can take it on but I feel like I might be more confrontational in a social aspect and need to check myself
 
I wanted to bring this discussion up. I know that even 5 years ago and you searched this topic up, People would always say that
"Masteron is useless over 12% bodyfat"
"Masteron is only cosmetic"

Now it seems that there are more respectable people, John Jewett, Broderick, Chase Irons state Masteron can be used for growth just like any other anabolic.
I am not going to go into detail on the background/opinions of the people who stated this either, but I was wondering what people's thoughts are.


Primary benefits some use it
e2 receptor control
strength gains
progestin receptor control
supposedly has a inhibiting effect to prolactin secretion
Aggression(Good and bad)
Brings down SHBG
considered "safer" than other AAS

The biggest concerns for the AAS are
Size growth(Because it isnt a watery AAS)
Joints
Hair loss
Aggression
anxiety
Harsh on lipids for some.


I am going to use it as my main driver, I was just wondering what other people's thoughts on it now are.
John is in a push phase now to compete in the open category for next year and using Masteron as his primary anabolic. He prefers masteron over primo for quality and managing shot volume reasons. Currently he's 252 lbs very lean at 5'7.
 
John is in a push phase now to compete in the open category for next year and using Masteron as his primary anabolic. He prefers masteron over primo for quality and managing shot volume reasons. Currently he's 252 lbs very lean at 5'7.
I didn't realize John was That tall, thought he was about 5'5
 
The aggression you guys are talking about, is it in the gym only or about everything?
Because I've always heard that mast makes you feel good and now I'm seeing you guys saying it makes you more aggressive, so, which one is it?I
 
The aggression you guys are talking about, is it in the gym only or about everything?
Because I've always heard that mast makes you feel good and now I'm seeing you guys saying it makes you more aggressive, so, which one is it?I
Aggression is general but it's like everything else: you are a calm person in general, you will feel more aggression in the gym so you can use it. You are an ahole you become enchanced ahole
 
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Can’t bring myself to like it. Have to run a stupid high amount of test.
Same thing happens to me if I try to run EQ too. I always laugh when I see people say shit like, “it really shines around 800 mg per week”, knowing damn well that would pretty much ruin my life lol
 
The aggression you guys are talking about, is it in the gym only or about everything?
Because I've always heard that mast makes you feel good and now I'm seeing you guys saying it makes you more aggressive, so, which one is it?I
Tested pretty much every AAS except MENT, Halo and Mtren (which I guess are the most notorious ones for aggression) and never felt any kind of aggression. I mean, I get violent dreams but I get them even when I'm not on gear but day-to-day life or gym absolutely no change. But I guess I'm pretty chill dude to begin with so there are really no things in life which make me feel aggression.

On the topic of the thread, I found Masteron is best used in a similar fashion as Deca; low-end doses to complement the stack. Reap the benefits before going into the dose range where side effects start to show.
 
Same thing happens to me if I try to run EQ too. I always laugh when I see people say shit like, “it really shines around 800 mg per week”, knowing damn well that would pretty much ruin my life lol
This has always been my fear, im a short fuse kinda guy and adding that in there, im glad really glad i read all this before grabbing mast, all these new "trt" blends with mast and or primo' im glad i havent grabbed any of them.... Sure maybe for the constant fuck fest id encounter but not the im going to fuckin choke everyone if they make me mad type thing....

So does primo give aggression as well or just jack with the ol hole slammin hammer?
 
im glad i havent grabbed any of them.... Sure maybe for the constant fuck fest id encounter but not the im going to fuckin choke everyone if they make me mad type thing....
After running Tren, I found that many on here exaggerate about this stuff. I didn't have a raging libido wanting to bang trannies on tren. Neither tren or masteron turns me into a raging lunatic. It might make things that are annoying to you a little quicker to get annoying. As far as I'm concerned people are exaggerating...
 
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