good idea, I'll keep my simple test + deca or test/tren/mast and maybe some anavar here and there as an oral, while using tudca.
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Masteron Dosages with Tren
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Human_backhoe
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Couldn't agree more! Var doesn't even move any health markers for me. I will usually run it last 4 weeks.
MuscleFreak
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To be honest u don't even need tren,look at me i look more freaky then any guy using tren here and last time i touch it was almost 3 years ago...
And i deadlift for reps over 700lbs
I love how I feel on tren, I have a good tolerance to it and I love the look it gives me, so for now I'll keep the tren in my cycles but yeah no orals, I love them (anadrol by far is the best) but they are not worth the stomach problem plus the liver etc. Especially because if you wanna keep doing this for a very long time is better to reduce any damage from the early start 
Yeah Var is super mild, at 40-50mg day for 4 weeks it does move my markers only a tiny bit, still in range tho.
Yeah I was reading that many ppl are using orals at the end of the cycle to keep gaining and moving trough plateau. I always used oral at the start of the cycle, gonna try at the end!
Yeah Var is super mild, at 40-50mg day for 4 weeks it does move my markers only a tiny bit, still in range tho.
Yeah I was reading that many ppl are using orals at the end of the cycle to keep gaining and moving trough plateau. I always used oral at the start of the cycle, gonna try at the end!
you are genetically gifted tho, I'm shit on the genetic department lol
I don't wanna use primo, I'm scared of losing all my hairs plus it's painful expensive at 100mg/ml to much oil to inject.
I know tren is bad and it's not really needed but I like it. I'll run it lower, no 600mg and stick to 400. You guys made me think about it. thank you
@MuscleFreak do you run any t4 with hgh?
MuscleFreak
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We all want to stay long in this game Cause we love it and many of us like me make living from it...so it's safer to keep compounds like tren lower and increase more safer anabolics like mast, primo etc but nobody can tell u what to do,just to give u advice...if u like tren use it just be carefull.
Good luck with your cycle bro!
MuscleFreak
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No,i never use more drugs if i don't need...my t4 and t3 are in perfect range so no need at all.
Yeah I'm gonna run it lower and just once a year for my cut, even so I have read many saw a very good bulk potential from tren, problem is it kills my appetite badly
What other cut stuck do you suggest excluding tren and primo and EQ.
Not much left I guess lol
Jesus I don’t see how you can handle 600 mg of tren a week. More power to you though man.
Like I said, I’m bulking on 200mg tren a /week and 200 test, 30mg of tren A daily, 600 sounds crazy overkill unless you’re like 295 trying to hit 300 and nothing’s working.. lol..Yeah I'm gonna run it lower and just once a year for my cut, even so I have read many saw a very good bulk potential from tren, problem is it kills my appetite badly
What other cut stuck do you suggest excluding tren and primo and EQ.
Not much left I guess lol
Cutting or bulking really all depends on your diet, both nandrolone and trenbolone can be used for a bulk, so can test, test and Eq .. certain compounds have specific physical ‘looks’ attributed to them, and some effect protein synthesis and nitrogen retention more then others, and some other minor differences ofc.. but really you can bulk/cut on anything.
Yeah I even tried 700 a week and I was fine. Just a lot of sweating and sometime I felt hypoglycemic during the night ( I was doing GH with it)
600 tren E is different then the acetate tho, enanthate ester it's bigger so there is less trenbolone compared to pinning acetate. The difference is quite a bit.
Anyway you are right, I don't plan to go over 600mg in the future so probably better starting low and then increasing when I need to break a plateau.
Yeah I know you can bulk and cut on anything it's diet to dictate what you are doing but deca for example bloat me a little bit so I never cut on it. EQ is awesome but I prefer to avoid it. rBC trough the roof and you need high dosage not really worth it in my opinion. Primo is too expensive. So not much is left. Masteron tren test and Anavar.
MuscleFreak
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Why it happens is due to histamine build up,dr Martin talked about it, Luke Sandoe had same problem with tren crazy heartburn and when they fix it Lower his histamine he placed 3rd at Arnold.Yeah I'm gonna run it lower and just once a year for my cut, even so I have read many saw a very good bulk potential from tren, problem is it kills my appetite badly
What other cut stuck do you suggest excluding tren and primo and EQ.
Not much left I guess lol
Basically u can cut really with anything,it just comes to calories deficit...but if speak about contest prep it's totally different,we need to look really insane, create that freaky look so.
MuscleFreak
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This is what i use with clients high dose TR vit c, quercetin, stinging nettle and bromelain
Rivnats
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With anti histamines like benadryl and quercetin etc
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Hey man, and whats your Primo dosage with 400t? Do you stack primo with other than test?
thehogsters
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Currently running
250 test
300 tren
600 Mast
Mast is probably my favorite compound. Very low on sides and nice lean (but slow) gains.
No reason to run test over 250 with tren.
The more tren cycles I do the more I hate it. I mean the results are great but the sleeping issues just keep getting worse every time.
250 test
300 tren
600 Mast
Mast is probably my favorite compound. Very low on sides and nice lean (but slow) gains.
No reason to run test over 250 with tren.
The more tren cycles I do the more I hate it. I mean the results are great but the sleeping issues just keep getting worse every time.
shawn2551
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This looks similar to my upcoming cycle. First time running Tren.
400TestP
225TrenA pin every day
400MastP
I've personally seen good results off Mast at 200 so didnt want to take it so high.
I'm hoping pinning the Tren every day will keep the sides minimal
Ppl pinning ed or even EOD are superhero in my opinion. I would never have the guts to be a pin cushion. I tried did it one year, said fuck it never again.
