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Ateam2023
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why would he do different tests?
Not different tests, a different set up of his equipment. Otherwise what explains tren degradation products showing up in this new test but not the one where it was specifically degraded?.
Ateam2023
Member
Again i have to ask " Why would he do this" ? is there something im missing here? Serious
Maybe he didn’t want you to think you guys were wasting your money. If it just kept coming back blank it makes sense he would adjust things.
Ateam2023
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i'm not entirely sure how to read gcms reports either, This whole experiment was a little over my head , lol , jk , but at least theres some effort being made, and it did provide some useful data, again a little outta my pay grade so ,Have a Grateful Day
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readalot
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@janoshik
What's your take on the rock solid results with TRA vs other stuff in TRE. Were the other peaks (7-12 on this latest round) in the raw? The TRA raw was obviously righteously pure.
I can't imagine anything change on your GC injection procedure between those results.
Tdeck81
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You might be getting confused. Two different tren projects are In This thread. The first tren project was regarding the color variance and degradation of raw materials via heat exposure. This second project is ultimately concerned with plastics leeching into finished projects from processing /filtering. Im pretty sure all material is undergoing the same testing but additionally testing for plastics in second test run? I have a hard time following what is happening in here sometimes too.
Photon
Member
Yes
Two projects.
The latter is not Tren related, its just that i bought TRE400 so i sent it for testing. Additional screening for plastic, yes.
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readalot
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The screening method is the same though. The question is has peak 3 been seen on any other GCMS reports or was there some change to GC injection method or column conditions. My take is nothing special was done to pick up the peak at 15.442 min. I asked Jano.
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readalot
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All the peaks add up to the roughly 4% other. Two different raws? In the raw?
dinfar1337
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higher dose, different degradation factors. different vial life, different oils & raw product. different brewing.
we want to look at this, and gather as much info on the new byproducts we can & isolate the x in this equation for why?
janoshik had also been confused about this and said our recent testing is different from other tren he has looked at.
and the peaks from 7-12 is tren and its products which some of are not good we defiently dont want those in our tren and theres few i've ever never seen before which i also have to look into myself.
if possible it would great if janoshik could chime in on peak 7, 8 and 11 and then we can do a deep dive into it
I'm sure you've shared it already, but how much was one of these tests?
I wonder what one would look like with some standard test cyp 250?
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readalot
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See the GCMS model thread. Compendium of all the GCMS tests we have.
GCMS is 120 USD add on to standard HPLC test.
Photon
Member
Sorry I meant would we see apparent leeched plastic in a lower concentration vial. Or am I totally missing the point here and it's more leeched plastic?
Photon
Member
Oh i thought u just wanted to see a GCMS report lol
AlexDavis43
Member
What tren issues, specifically?
Tdeck81
New Member
I think I follow what you’re asking….certain “solvents” are more responsible for disintegrating the plastic than others. So the higher the concentration of the corrosive solvent, within the finished oil, the more likely plastics will be found in the sample. Theoretically some products will be more affected than others.
It is also my impression most of this contamination occurs during the filtration process. There is potential for the filter housing and filters themselves being susceptible to to the solvents.
Feel free to correct me if I’m mistaken. I’m only trying to follow along myself.
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Tdeck81
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I’m not sure if I’m following where we are heading either, or if there is a clear hypothesis. My best guess is correlating the presence of plastics with color of the sample and the level of toxicity it contains?
I don’t know enough regarding the tests and compounds to even know what type of conclusions we can ultimately reach. Im hoping someone can step in with a layman’s explanation for the projects direction.
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