MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund

[dinfar1337]

It seems Readalot has gone on hiatus

its none of my business so i dont wanna answer questions, but readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on sst.

just toss the vial or keep it to show your kids in 20 years. but going forward @Sampei has the money and that will probably make him responsible for the tests

 

[dinfar1337]

As a chemist, I would say that the latter is much more likely.

i agree

any thoughts on

delta 6 testosterone:

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testosterone:

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peaks are close to each other but not different. no new large peaks happeend under gcms

almost no change in RT > gcms didnt isomerize the testosterone. the gcms is most likely accurate for testosterone and delta 6. no need to use 500 bucks

 

[Nixonnow99]

its none of my business so i dont wanna answer questions, but readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on sst.

just toss the vial or keep it to show your kids in 20 years. but going forward @Sampei has the money and that will probably make him responsible for the tests

Understood. Thank you for the clarification.

I am saddened to hear that he will delete his account here too. I didn't always agree with his methods or the way he came across at times (other members were guilty as well). But, his knowledge was respected and will be missed.

 

[AlexDavis43]

its none of my business so i dont wanna answer questions, but readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on sst.

just toss the vial or keep it to show your kids in 20 years. but going forward @Sampei has the money and that will probably make him responsible for the tests

Not directly related to the current discourse, but I’m the one with the 10-year-old Tren E GSO vial. It seems Readalot has gone on hiatus, so I haven’t been able to reach him. He had shown interest in testing it, but from what I can tell the tren color test has either ended or been abandoned. At this point, I’ve decided to just go ahead and throw it out.

Just wanted to pop in and give an update.

Did you already toss it?

If not, keep it

It can't be too of much an issue with storage space, and may be of value in future testing ideas

 

[Nixonnow99]

Did you already toss it?

If not, keep it

It can't be too of much an issue with storage space, and may be of value in future testing ideas

Not an issue at all. I'll hang onto it. Just reach out if it's ever needed/wanted.

 

[T-Bagger]

its none of my business so i dont wanna answer questions, but readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on SST

Unless things have changed THAT much around here, there is no deleting of accounts.

 

[dinfar1337]

Unless things have changed THAT much around here, there is no deleting of accounts.

eh. i never looked into it. but seems like meso policy allows deleting accounts just looking 2 seconds into terms

 

[AlexDavis43]

Unless things have changed THAT much around here, there is no deleting of accounts.

The topical DHT guy who ended all his replies with a winky face emoji deleted his account around a year ago

iirc a mod commented that it was done on his request

 

[Photon]

readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on sst.

It's a pity but it is what it is.
He has made a difference in getting vendors to improve their standards one way or another.

 

[RandallFlagg]

It's a pity but it is what it is.
He has made a difference in getting vendors to improve their standards one way or another.

P.S. I'm just messing around... hopefully Readalot makes a return again some day but sounds like some know more than others.

 

[AlexDavis43]

It's a pity but it is what it is.
He has made a difference in getting vendors to improve their standards one way or another.

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P.S. I'm just messing around... hopefully Readalot makes a return again some day but sounds like some know more than others.

tbh hope the dude got a girlfriend (or at least a job)

some things in life are more important than making a mark on anon steroid forums

 

[Photon]

tbh hope the dude got a girlfriend (or at least a job)

some things in life are more important than making a mark on anon steroid forums

Totally agree.
I thought he was retired or something.

 

[sionnach]

its none of my business so i dont wanna answer questions, but readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on sst.

Pussy bitch move. All he had to do was use the ignore button.

(For the record, I like @readalot and he will be missed)

 

[Zebedee]

its none of my business so i dont wanna answer questions, but readalot is gonna delete his account here like he did on sst.

just toss the vial or keep it to show your kids in 20 years. but going forward @Sampei has the money and that will probably make him responsible for the tests

All I will say here (on the off chance that he’s reading this) is that deleting his account will just make it very difficult for others to find & view his posts, which is a shame.

If he no longer wishes to participate on Meso, all he needs to do is just not visit the forum.

 

[B Ware]

 

[T-Bagger]

All I will say here (on the off chance that he’s reading this) is that deleting his account will just make it very difficult for others to find & view his posts, which is a shame.

If he no longer wishes to participate on Meso, all he needs to do is just not visit the forum.

You are correct sir, his posts will remain, but his name will not be able to be easily searched. There is no deleting of posts unless Millard chooses to do so.

 

[ChemBB]

its quite literally a byproduct of testosterone from oxidation(poor storage of raws or poor synthesis)

"Oxidation" in storage != "add a new double bond."

The "weak spot" on Testosterone is the allylic positions (C6/ C7, next to the double bond)

Passive oxidation (autooxidation) generally adds oxygen at C-6
(6-OH, 6-OOH, 6-oxo)...

It does not remove two specific hydrogens to make C6=C7.

Delta-6 is a dehydrogenation product, not an autoxidation result.
You need a strong oxidant (or enzymes).

So this is without a hair of a doubt a manufacturing issue.

 

[ChemBB]

One is that the temperature used during GCMS oxidized the 6 position carbon (a spot that is quite sensitive) of ~10% of the testosterone, causing a delta 4,6

Yes, GC/MS injector port temp could theoretically cause this like you mention, but my gut says thermal decomp wouldn't proceed that rapidly

You see this same issue with the episulfide ring in Epistane when doing GC/MS

 

[Photon]

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GCMS only shows volatile or semi volatile substances. Which leads me to believe that 100-89.46=10.54% is not volatile..and god knows what it is..If you're lucky it might be something that doesn't dissolve..and can be filtered out..lol

 

[Sera]

According to Grok 4 Andros-4-en-3-one, 17-(1-oxo-3-phenylpropoxy)-, (17.eta.)- is actually testosterone phenylpropionate.