strongarmaho
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can anyone tell me with any scientific knowledge if you need an estrogen blocker or not? milk thistle or not?I ment to put this under nutrition!
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Anabolic Steroids
methyldienolone?
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Chip Bronson
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from all my reading about it, and i've read quite a bit, and from my own personal experience, you don't need an anti-e with md. i'm just finishing up a cycle of it at 4mg ed for a little over 3 weeks and the stuff is rocking. strength way up and i'm up 5 lbs with no fat gains. can't complain. no problems with gyno at all. the only side is testicular atrophy and a little bit of light acne on the upper back and shoulders. to be safe, keep some nolva on hand just in case you get any gyno symptoms.
from what i read you should do the milk thistle and nac before and after your cycle because these liver protectant supplements help to increase glutathione levels in the liver and this, in turn, will increase the breakdown of oral drugs, thus making them less effective. although increasing liver enzymes is good for your liver, it is bad for any drugs you want to take and allow them to pass through your liver unabated. that's why it's a better idea to use liver protectant supplements before and after a cycle to help your liver rebuild its enzymes after they have been damaged by the methylated prohormones/prosteroids.
from what i read you should do the milk thistle and nac before and after your cycle because these liver protectant supplements help to increase glutathione levels in the liver and this, in turn, will increase the breakdown of oral drugs, thus making them less effective. although increasing liver enzymes is good for your liver, it is bad for any drugs you want to take and allow them to pass through your liver unabated. that's why it's a better idea to use liver protectant supplements before and after a cycle to help your liver rebuild its enzymes after they have been damaged by the methylated prohormones/prosteroids.
bigmik44
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Chip Bronson said:
Now I know why 3 grams a day didn't work for me for too long.
I took 3gms NAC, 4 Liv52 and 2 milk thistle caps per day, in divided doses, while on the Md.
Chip Bronson
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bigmik44 said:
good point bro. try it again bigmik and use 4-5mg md ed instead of 3mg. and don't use any liver protectants during the cycle. load up with the doses you mention in the weeks preceeding and the weeks following the cycle.
strongarmaho
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thank i appriciate the knowledge.i had surgery for gyno 6 months ago and want no biatch tits again.whats 4mg ed?nac?
Chip Bronson
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strongarmaho said:
the md is 4mg ed. the nac should be 1200mg ed (600mg 2x/day) before and after the cycle. milk thistle @ 750-1000mg ed and ala @ 300-600mg ed.
DonkeyKong
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yo
compares.On my 2nd 6week cycle(week3) of methyl1test right now and gaining
size and strenght amazingly fast.Cant wait to try MD after a lil break of course!
Chip have you used reg. M1-T yet?Was wondering how MDChip Bronson said:
compares.On my 2nd 6week cycle(week3) of methyl1test right now and gaining
size and strenght amazingly fast.Cant wait to try MD after a lil break of course!
Chip Bronson
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DonkeyKong said:
hey 'kong what's up? never used m1t but neighbor has used and he likes it. he didn't get a lot of sides from it and it made crazy strong and he put on a good deal of fairly solid weight in a few weeks time. it was wild. but things liike high blood pressure, gyno and lethargy are what kept me from trying it. he also tried the md and says you make slighlty lesser gains on it, but still very good gains, but with no sides. i can attest to the no sides thing as well. just a few small pimples on the upper back/shoulder area. are you getting any sides from m1t?
DonkeyKong
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Yes I believe so.darker Urine,agrression(wich is something I feelChip Bronson said:
on this stuff all the time but never exp. even with test,dianabol ect.)
slight acne and nosebleeds.But I love every minute of it.
