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[Michelilny]

You are going to disrupt your test production if you cycle no matter what. It's the HPTA negative feedback loop, google it. If that is your main worry then you need to think a little bit deeper.

Main challenges that I have had from cycling:
1. Balls are small.
2. Girlfriends frowning on steroid use. And some girls just straight out dip.
3. Girlfriend threatening to call cops and get a felony because of steroids.
4. Vacations need to see how I can get my gear with me.
5. Court case slandering and demonizing steroid use which makes me look like I am dis-credible/unstable.
6. Losing custody of child because baby momma showing how "bad" steroid use is. There was some trouble getting her pregnant but after a couple years we got lucky.
7. Parents, friends and family looking down on steroids.
8. Getting shit from co-workers and students because of steroid use.

balls are small only in cycle, what u cycle that get ur balls atrophy 4 ever ?
i don't care about social life issues, so u tell me like i cycled once, i get my test down with 20 units, and then i did second cycle, test will fall down with 20 unit more ? so more i cycle more test drop i will have untill i become impotent or start trt ?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

LOL! Your endocrine system is fully developed already, you are a year past your peak.

Leaving aside the fact that you have NO idea whether or not the OP's TT production has peaked yet, peak TT production does not mean you have a fully developed endocrine system. I know the distinction is too complex for your pea brain to comprehend but hopefully my post will help the OP to understand that you're full of shit and that anything you say is nonsense.

 

[Michelilny]

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Leaving aside the fact that you have NO idea whether or not the OP's TT production has peaked yet, peak TT production does not mean you have a fully developed endocrine system. I know the distinction is too complex for your pea brain to comprehend but hopefully my post will help the OP to understand that you're full of shit and that anything you say is nonsense.

why nobody tells me how to check my end system developement lvl ?

 

[bigrobbie]

Do you braid your body hair?

Yup, ya do

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

This is labs tests i take

обши уровен тестостерона - testosterone level
уровен естродиола (женских полових гормон) female hormone level
Анализ на фолликулостимулирующий гормон folikular hormone analis
Лютеинизирующий гормон another hormone

проверить печень checking liver

what else i need to check do you know ? and do i need someone to help fix side effects if they appear ?

Don't get those tests, get these ones. They're much better:

 

[Demondosage]

Oh come on guys, lets drop the bullshit for a minute. I cycled when I was 19 yrs old and it didn't "fuck me up" and recovery was quick. Other than a little acne I was fine. The guy is going to do it anyways, hell Arnold was doing Dbols back when he was like 13-15 yrs old.

Well I certainly understand the logic behind telling someone to wait, there should be just as much emphasis(if not more) placed on the guys development and experience than just age alone

 

[bigrobbie]

I feel ya but its his attitude and insults. Go read yesterdays thread..

 

[Michelilny]

Oh come on guys, lets drop the bullshit for a minute. I cycled when I was 19 yrs old and it didn't "fuck me up" and recovery was quick. Other than a little acne I was fine. The guy is going to do it anyways, hell Arnold was doing Dbols back when he was like 13-15 yrs old.

Well I certainly understand the logic behind telling someone to wait, there should be just as much emphasis(if not more) placed on the guys development and experience than just age alone

i am strong mentally, if its only mental issues, i can handle them, if its about training/diet experince i can handle that, if its a russian roulette, i can't handle that, i don't want to be one who will stay on trt for life

 

[Michelilny]

Don't get those tests, get these ones. They're much better:

u are slow in the head, i wrote everything on english beside it, but your tiny mind can't even read it

 

[D-Ballin]

Oh come on guys, lets drop the bullshit for a minute. I cycled when I was 19 yrs old and it didn't "fuck me up" and recovery was quick. Other than a little acne I was fine. The guy is going to do it anyways, hell Arnold was doing Dbols back when he was like 13-15 yrs old.

Well I certainly understand the logic behind telling someone to wait, there should be just as much emphasis(if not more) placed on the guys development and experience than just age alone

Some people do well. Others just don't. There's always a risk shutting yourself down.

The issue at heart is not the actual debate. We've had three days with the disrespectful little shit. He wants to be combative with anything he does not want to hear, and at the same time wants to beg for validation that he is not going to hurt himself. It just does not work that way.

In short, he's still wanting someone to tell him it's going to be all right, and to "just do it". We all know that's pretty unwise. . .

@Michelilny we certainly got off on a wrong foot. I don't expect you to like me, and I don't much care for you. But any specific questions you have about harm reduction I would be happy to answer for you, as would anyone else. No one wishes to see you get hurt, whether we shit on each other on the internet or not.

As far as your question regarding endocrine system development: there is no way to definitive test that you are done developing at your age. Chances are you are not. There is risk to doing this at at any age. But if you look at the anecdotal evidence, the risk seems to be somewhat higher at a younger age. Whether that is due to high risk practice among youth, or hormonal imbalance at that age, I can't tell you. I don't have studies for you. The horror stories are there though if you care to look yourself.

It's Russian roulette for everyone, but the youth are the ones who get hardest when they fall. Needing ed meds and trt is different at 20 then it is at 30 and up. No one likes it, but it's more an accepted natural progression for us.

The moral of all this, is you can't be sure until you try. So the risk to reward ratio has to make sense to you, because no one can give you any sort of guarantee. It's a big decision at any age.

Good luck.

 

[Danny4281]

i am strong mentally, if its only mental issues, i can handle them, if its about training/diet experince i can handle that, if its a russian roulette, i can't handle that, i don't want to be one who will stay on trt for life

Bro if you can't understand how it fucks your body then you're not ready to inject anything into your body. How can someone not understand how steroids messes with your system?

 

[Bone Gristle]

i am strong mentally

Your last few days of posting says differently.

 

[heady muscle]

in europe, only retards use twitter..

LOL. Nice. I agree.

 

[Sworder]

balls are small only in cycle, what u cycle that get ur balls atrophy 4 ever ?
i don't care about social life issues, so u tell me like i cycled once, i get my test down with 20 units, and then i did second cycle, test will fall down with 20 unit more ? so more i cycle more test drop i will have untill i become impotent or start trt ?

Well depending on if you continually cycle or not kinda depends on the size of the balls. Which, if you are using AAS you are going to want to cycle and like I said, you will most likely start to blast and cruise.

No, there is no way to know how much or how little your total testosterone drops. And the thing is with PCT you will most likely not be able to fuck for those 4-6 weeks or you will have problems getting an erection. Another reason to blast and cruise, kinda embarrassing dating a girl and she wants to fuck but you are on PCT

During PCT, and I don't know if you know, but your testosterone levels are rock bottom and you use that time to try to get your testosterone levels back up to normal. With that comes libido/ED problems, you lose some of your muscle mass, and you will be depressed and lethargic.

Would you not want to blast and cruise or be on TRT for life?

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why nobody tells me how to check my end system developement lvl ?

Because they don't know what it entails and/or they are blowing smoke.

 

[heady muscle]

Oh come on guys, lets drop the bullshit for a minute. I cycled when I was 19 yrs old and it didn't "fuck me up" and recovery was quick. Other than a little acne I was fine. The guy is going to do it anyways, hell Arnold was doing Dbols back when he was like 13-15 yrs old.

Well I certainly understand the logic behind telling someone to wait, there should be just as much emphasis(if not more) placed on the guys development and experience than just age alone

My first cycle was a few years before 19.

 

[Michelilny]

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Some people do well. Others just don't. There's always a risk shutting yourself down.

The issue at heart is not the actual debate. We've had three days with the disrespectful little shit. He wants to be combative with anything he does not want to hear, and at the same time wants to beg for validation that he is not going to hurt himself. It just does not work that way.

In short, he's still wanting someone to tell him it's going to be all right, and to "just do it". We all know that's pretty unwise. . .

@Michelilny we certainly got off on a wrong foot. I don't expect you to like me, and I don't much care for you. But any specific questions you have about harm reduction I would be happy to answer for you, as would anyone else. No one wishes to see you get hurt, whether we shit on each other on the internet or not.

As far as your question regarding endocrine system development: there is no way to definitive test that you are done developing at your age. Chances are you are not. There is risk to doing this at at any age. But if you look at the anecdotal evidence, the risk seems to be somewhat higher at a younger age. Whether that is due to high risk practice among youth, or hormonal imbalance at that age, I can't tell you. I don't have studies for you. The horror stories are there though if you care to look yourself.

It's Russian roulette for everyone, but the youth are the ones who get hardest when they fall. Needing ed meds and trt is different at 20 then it is at 30 and up. No one likes it, but it's more an accepted natural progression for us.

The moral of all this, is you can't be sure until you try. So the risk to reward ratio has to make sense to you, because no one can give you any sort of guarantee. It's a big decision at any age.

Good luck.

i am ready for some game baby, i wanna play a roulette, all my bets on myself, its a life you can live 2 years as a king or 20 years as a sheep, if it will be a painless death i chose first variant, bring it on baby, also i am not injecting niddle myself, i am going in pharmacy

 

[Michelilny]

i got 3 my friends with me, 2 of them will be injecting 250ml and 2 of us will take 500ml dose

 

[Sworder]

Leaving aside the fact that you have NO idea whether or not the OP's TT production has peaked yet, peak TT production does not mean you have a fully developed endocrine system. I know the distinction is too complex for your pea brain to comprehend but hopefully my post will help the OP to understand that you're full of shit and that anything you say is nonsense.

"The endocrine system is fully developed," what do you think it means to be "fully developed?" Are you aware that AAS are used to DEVELOP the HPTA? Obviously no, maybe you are high, maybe you are stupid. Maybe you want to correct my English and not talk about AAS?

Also, even if the endocrine system doesn't fully develop, let's say that a 14 year old takes AAS. The genetics involved to control the HPTA doesn't change, there might be a damage in the function of the organs but the genetics do not change. You will deflect from answering anything in this paragraph because you don't know how to respond.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

You will deflect from answering anything in this paragraph because you don't know how to respond.

You're right about that. I don't respond to idiocy, and your post is full of it. As usual.

 

[Sworder]

You're right about that. I don't respond to idiocy, and your post is full of it. As usual.

That's why I hold you dear in my heart.