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Michael 2
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Just skimmed through this thread. OP is just a garden variety troll, and not a particularly good one.
What's more concerning, though, are the calls for censorship. They always start off the same way: "I support free speech but..." Well, no, you don't support free speech. Not when you add a qualifier.
I realize most members appreciate the uncensored format but there are a hanful of long-term members here that want real moderation - mostly because they're too stupid to understand the benefits that come with an uncensored forum - and they whine about it constantly while taking passive-agressive shots at Millard. You know who they are. But as soon as a troll shows up you'd think those members were the majority.
If you hate trolls so much, stop feeding them - that's what they want. But nobody does. Instead they engage the troll continuously and then when the troll doesn't go away, they call on Millard to do something.
Calling for more moderation from the admin isn't the answer; it's moderating yourselves. Block them, don't feed them, etc. Do whatever you have to do but stop feeding the troll and then calling for censorship because they're still trolling. One of the greatest assets Meso has is its lack of censorship. But thats not likely to last if trolls start to flourish here because members are encouraging them, and then those same members start calling for moderation when they won't leave.
Personally speaking, I don't mind trolls too much unless they're scamming. Some of them can be quite entertaining and it can be a lot fun to fuck with them, especially if they're good ones. But Millard has done a good job of keeping out the dangerous ones and giving the harmless ones a little more leeway.
The bottom line is there are certain negatives that come with having an uncensored forum and trolls are one of them. Don't lose sight of the big picture. Trolls aren't the end of the world and Meso is a big forum. Go find something else to do.
CBS
What's more concerning, though, are the calls for censorship. They always start off the same way: "I support free speech but..." Well, no, you don't support free speech. Not when you add a qualifier.
I realize most members appreciate the uncensored format but there are a hanful of long-term members here that want real moderation - mostly because they're too stupid to understand the benefits that come with an uncensored forum - and they whine about it constantly while taking passive-agressive shots at Millard. You know who they are. But as soon as a troll shows up you'd think those members were the majority.
If you hate trolls so much, stop feeding them - that's what they want. But nobody does. Instead they engage the troll continuously and then when the troll doesn't go away, they call on Millard to do something.
Calling for more moderation from the admin isn't the answer; it's moderating yourselves. Block them, don't feed them, etc. Do whatever you have to do but stop feeding the troll and then calling for censorship because they're still trolling. One of the greatest assets Meso has is its lack of censorship. But thats not likely to last if trolls start to flourish here because members are encouraging them, and then those same members start calling for moderation when they won't leave.
Personally speaking, I don't mind trolls too much unless they're scamming. Some of them can be quite entertaining and it can be a lot fun to fuck with them, especially if they're good ones. But Millard has done a good job of keeping out the dangerous ones and giving the harmless ones a little more leeway.
The bottom line is there are certain negatives that come with having an uncensored forum and trolls are one of them. Don't lose sight of the big picture. Trolls aren't the end of the world and Meso is a big forum. Go find something else to do.
CBS
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CBS my friend I think you got my intentions wrong. This was specifically meant for the trolls and a question not a statement what to do about them . To be more specific when you suspect kids I mean underage individuals trolling what do we do ?
Re: feeding the trolls. Take a look at the current thread (which is a combination of half a dozen threads started by one "troll"). Count the number of posts by the "troll" and then count the number of posts from everyone else who is fueling the troll.
RodgerThat
New Member
Is it censorship to hit the ejection button on an asshole like this guy? We can get as nasty as we want, I mean us not them.
That's a call for common sense. only a fucking moron can't see that.
That's why I started a thread asking members to stop posting on the douche bags threads.
Glad to see cbs on the scene. I thought he only trolled the undergound.
It seemed to me that most members could see no reason why Michelle 2 should be here after her first several posts. They are right.
Why would anyone want her on our board?
jaymaximus
Pro
I dont want to turn this into the censorship thread, but youre right Paul, this person was a troll and was a burden to the board.
Having said that, when it comes to censorship, youre either censored, or not. There's no in between. And the reason a lot of us are at Meso is the ability to openly say what you feel about labs, AAS, etc. Really, this is the only board Ive seen that people can talk about the admin (Millard) and not get banned.
Once you censor a little it starts down a slippery slope. Then where do you stop? Who decides who is a troll and who is just stupid? Do you ban 17 and 18 year olds because theyre "too young"?
Technically its not against any rule to be a troll or be an asshole (If it was most of us would be banned at some point). Usually the thing we do with trolls is try to bait them in to breaking rules, then they can be legit banned. Or shame them into leaving. But just banning them isnt what Meso is about (in my opinion).
Im just saying, censorship isnt the answer...
And to anyone on Meso who complaina about these people being here but goes back and forth with them (including me sometimes), youre the problem. Dont say shit to em, at all. If they start 50 threads and no one is responding hit the report button for spamming. Bam...theyre gone
Having said that, when it comes to censorship, youre either censored, or not. There's no in between. And the reason a lot of us are at Meso is the ability to openly say what you feel about labs, AAS, etc. Really, this is the only board Ive seen that people can talk about the admin (Millard) and not get banned.
Once you censor a little it starts down a slippery slope. Then where do you stop? Who decides who is a troll and who is just stupid? Do you ban 17 and 18 year olds because theyre "too young"?
Technically its not against any rule to be a troll or be an asshole (If it was most of us would be banned at some point). Usually the thing we do with trolls is try to bait them in to breaking rules, then they can be legit banned. Or shame them into leaving. But just banning them isnt what Meso is about (in my opinion).
Im just saying, censorship isnt the answer...
And to anyone on Meso who complaina about these people being here but goes back and forth with them (including me sometimes), youre the problem. Dont say shit to em, at all. If they start 50 threads and no one is responding hit the report button for spamming. Bam...theyre gone
D-Ballin
New Member
Exactly. I'll bait the fuck out of some trolls, when I have the time, and when I find an amusing one. The michelles and jayzers of the world bring me a certain joy on the right days. And it's fun seeing them pushed out of line and banned.
But, I don't go complaining about them, because I know I'm part of the problem by feeding them. If you walk into a troll thread and bump it to piss and moan about feeding it, what good did you just do?
Either have fun with them, or click ignore. Either tactic works eventually, they all take care of themselves in the end.
But, I don't go complaining about them, because I know I'm part of the problem by feeding them. If you walk into a troll thread and bump it to piss and moan about feeding it, what good did you just do?
Either have fun with them, or click ignore. Either tactic works eventually, they all take care of themselves in the end.
It's not you who is confused, it is Michael 2 who is.
I would have smacked him upside the head with a ban hammer.
I just want to get all that troll shit out of our lives as quickly as possible.
If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
John Stuart Mill
Just the guys like the member in question. Making clear neither you or I is that the member in question. That's another thread.
I'm like predator drone. I just want to WHACK the fucks that are foolish enough clutter our board.
Ok CBS ---I know Im being called out , yes I fed the troll and I continue to feed them , it feels like Im defending this place when I tell the bad source to get fucked and get out or I tell the noob troll to move along and grow-up ....it goes with coveting a place like Meso , which feels like home
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Ok CBS ---I know Im being called out , yes I fed the troll and I continue to feed them , it feels like Im defending this place when I tell the bad source to get fucked or I tell the noob troll to move along and grow-up ....it goes with coveting a place like Meso , which feels like home
Hey, I've fed trolls too. Probably will continue doing so. My point is too many are pushing for censorship of trolls without thinking about the repercussions. Like @jaymaximus said, it's a slippery slope.
No idea what you're trying to say here, Paul.
I know I say that vets need their own space , its because some of us are tired of helping out noobs answering their questions and it turns out to be a trolling little POS . And they play us and waste our time...then we play them (makes you hates noobs).
Its getting worse and I think its mostly the same repeat assholes from the past here...
