Mike Tyson Vs. Bruce Lee

[MANWHORE]

Danielson! Touchatoe no benda knee!

 

[MANWHORE]

I keep seeing this term "real fight" what do you guy's mean by that.

Well,that depends who's saying it. For the Karate guys that would mean... Low kick,point...green. For the MMA guys that would mean... Back up we need a stretcher in here.

 

[stevemac]

Tyson was KOed by lewis in 8, not 6. And how could anyone expect anything different, lewis has been continuously fighting the best A level fighters, tyson fights chumps but makes money because the general public still likes watching him. Tyson will never again beat a good opponent, why? because he wont fight anyone good, and two his skills are all washed up. lets see tyson fight toney,jones,byrd,klitschko,rahman,tua,ruiz, and ill shut my mouth. tyson sucks. he's living on a name of 15yrs ago.

 

[Whoaimskinny]

Tyson was KOed by lewis in 8, not 6. And how could anyone expect anything different, lewis has been continuously fighting the best A level fighters, tyson fights chumps but makes money because the general public still likes watching him. Tyson will never again beat a good opponent, why? because he wont fight anyone good, and two his skills are all washed up. lets see tyson fight toney,jones,byrd,klitschko,rahman,tua,ruiz, and ill shut my mouth. tyson sucks. he's living on a name of 15yrs ago.

i see you guys making alot of valid points but getting off subject sometimes.it's about mike tyson vs bruce lee..not how traditional karate and kung fu are useless..which is a opinion..i'm very sure a lot of people's lives have been saved in real life scenarios because of kung fu,karate..etc.. so it's not some wax on wax off crap as some of you like to describe it..everyone talks about how "mma" style fighting rules and how most real fights go to the ground..well it's effective in a street fight until your opponent's friend decides to jump on your head while you're in some kind of mount position..but back to the subject at hand..Bruce would win..why?well he's a master of controlling his body..hands..feet..and all that..while Tyson is the master of his hands.. . . and that's it..he's a guy trained to fight in the boxing ring with set rules..and anyone saying Tyson wouldn't even flinch from Bruce's hits has either never been kicked in the shin/knee/head/gut by a formidable opponent or doesn't know what the hell he's talking about...you all say how Bruce would never fight in a MMA fight but it's not about that..it's about a skilled martial artist against a boxer...not a martial artist against a grappler/puncher...Tyson has no skills outside the ring..Bruce would dance circles around him till he tired out and then break his square jaw..or fuck up his knee so badly he'd be on his butt. . . . .and then break his jaw..you all say tradtional karate guys get they ass whipped in the Ufc type fights..well when was the last time you saw a straight up boxer win one of those events?never!they'd either lose to the grappler or the kickboxer/kung fu guy..and to Mark Kerr: why i referenced the Bruce/Norris thing?well it's not about how he beat a Champion fighter but how he beat a bigger guy because everyone keeps on insisting how much bigger Tyson is then Bruce and that being one of the reasons why he would lose..which is not always the case..

 

[MANWHORE]

O yeah? ....Well,what will Bruce do when Tyson bites his ear off? HUH?

 

[MANWHORE]

Tyson has no skills outside the ring..

Everyone i know has skills outside the ring. Tyson grew up on the street. You don't think he knew how to take care of himself,before he was a Pro boxer? Why would you compair Chuck Norris to Mike Tyson? Tyson would kill Norris past present and future....

.Bruce would dance circles around him till he tired out and then break his square jaw..or fuck up his knee so badly he'd be on his butt.

I doubt very much that tyson would tire before Lee. Did Lee ever fight for real or just on camera,and what's with kicking the knees? these are MEN fighting not WOMEN.

 

[MANWHORE]

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[MANWHORE]

Tyson would put him in a Coma

 

[Mark Kerr]

I am ending the debate now. I didnt want to play this card, but I will. If you ever watch K-1, there are plenty of people there who ONLY box, such as Butterbean, Sapp (mostly), Botha. Many UFC/PRIDE fighters win fights without throwing a kick or going to the ground. Look at many of Vitor's fights (BTW Vitor was a professional boxer as well), he wins on punching alone, and this is against some of the best MMA fighters around.

Let me rephrase the question to make my point clear: Lets put a world-class kickboxer against Bruce Lee (someone like Mirko Filipovic, Mike McDonald, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost, Vanderlei Silva, Remy Bonjasky). Who would win if the kickboxer was not allowed to throw kicks or take him to the ground? Most people would say the kickboxer. Then why the hell would Mike Tyson be any different? He is a better boxer than any of those guys.

[MK]

P.S. Did any of you read the post where the guy said he (he being the man who posted, not Bruce Lee) was "probably faster than Mike Tyson." I have another question, just to see how much the Lee-supporters know...who throws a faster punch? Mike or Bruce? If you say Bruce, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you...

Also, about Mike Tyson having no knowledge outside of the ring, the guy has been in more fights (in ring/out of ring/in prison) than probably any 5 people on this board combined.

Also, he is good friends in RL with the real Mark Kerr and he is a HUGE fan of MMA and K-1 (he recently went to a K-1 event, has a contract with K-1, and was called out by Bob Sapp.) The man has rolled with Mark Kerr before (MK himself talked about it in interviews, it is no secret).

 

[MANWHORE]

I bet Bruce can run faster,and how much is that bridge? I didn't know you had inside info.

 

[Mark Kerr]

I would even bet on Tyson against Lee in a 40 yard dash. The man does interval training on a regular basis.

[MK]

P.S. I dont think many of you realize this is damn close to asking who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson and Jet Li or Van Damme or Jackie Chan.

 

[MANWHORE]

YOU SUCK! Your gonna make me go against my original post ..... Bruce Lee's body was studied when he was alive and he was said to have overcome something in the human body,which made him faster than a human should be. He had control of his adrenaline flow. He could turn it on and off at will. He had an 8' vertical jump from a stand still. I think with alot more size and real life fighting experiences,he may have been able to take Mike.

 

[MANWHORE]

P.S. I dont think many of you realize this is damn close to asking who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson and Jet Li or Van Damme or Jackie Chan.

Tyson would die laughing,if he ever fought Jackie Chan lol

 

[Mark Kerr]

Please tell me your post above was sarcasm or a joke...PLEASE

[MK]

 

[MANWHORE]

I'll just say one thing about that post.... THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY. if you want to ask them,then go ahead.

 

[Bob Smith]

Good posts, Mark.

 

[Grizzly]

I'm here, Mark. Let's see if I can remember all of what I read that I felt like addressing.

OT- I've thought about fighting Tyson before. If the money was right, I'd do it. I honestly believe I could/would win, too. I'd just make DAMN SURE it was the quckest shot I've ever taken. Hell, you know exactly what he's going to do. He's going to charge in and let loose with a left hook. That's the perfect way to get taken down.

Kicks to the knee? Yeah, because those happen so often. A 3 inch space is really easy to hit when it's moving. (That was sarcasm, if you didn't notice)

Pressure points, are you kidding me? I almost puked when I read that one, Mark. Number one, pressure points are allowed in MMA competition. The jaw, temple, elbow, knee, ankle, toes, wrist are pressure points. If you really think that grabbing someone on the trap when they are punching you in the face is going to do shit, then I invite you to come train with me.

I train in a Karate gym when no one is there. The owner gave us the key so that we can use his space because he's a nice guy. On the wall is a very interesting poster. The part that makes me laugh my nuts off is the direction on the poster to "chop" a guy in the quad. Yeah, that's really going to hurt. I've taken 4 full-force leg kicks from a 260lb guy. Hell yeah it hurt, especially the next week, but they didn't stop me. He soon found himself with a dislocated shoulder and a painful face from many, many elbows. (Mexico is awesome, they allow downward elbows. Wheeee!)

If we believe the premise that TMA are for self-defense only, then why are the best practitioners monks? When was the last time a fucking monk living on a secluded mountaintop who spends most of his time making sand paintings and starving had to defend himself from a fucking thing?

Ok, Bruce Lee is fast. Great. He's also 5' tall. For him to get in a hit, he would have to get well within the striking distance of Mike Tyson. I'm sorry, but he doesn't have NEAR as much power as that brute does. Let's quote Mike Mentzer here. Ewww, did I just say that? "You can tap on a piece of dynamite all day long with a pencil and it won't go off. Hit it once with a hammer and BANG" This is the same priciple that would govern a Tyson/Lee fight.

An EIGHT FOOT VERICLE JUMP? Are you fucking insane? So, what we're saying here is that Lee could jump over Shaquile O'Neal wearing a ten gallon hat. BULLSHIT!

It is looking a bit like sherdog, isn't it, Mark? Once again you have "caught the correct" LOL

 

[Bob Smith]

An EIGHT FOOT VERICLE JUMP? Are you fucking insane? So, what we're saying here is that Lee could jump over Shaquile O'Neal wearing a ten gallon hat. BULLSHIT!

LMAO! Thats a great line!! Jump over Shaq... lol

 

[Whoaimskinny]

"I am ending the debate now. I didnt want to play this card, but I will. If you ever watch K-1, there are plenty of people there who ONLY box, such as Butterbean, Sapp (mostly), Botha. Many UFC/PRIDE fighters win fights without throwing a kick or going to the ground. Look at many of Vitor's fights (BTW Vitor was a professional boxer as well), he wins on punching alone, and this is against some of the best MMA fighters around."

yes i watch K-1 from time to time and people do get knocked out by punches from kickboxers but now we're going outside of the Bruce vs. Tyson arena...i'm not talking about Butterbean..and i don't really recall him ever winning a Pride/Ufc title before..Butterbean would get his ass handed to him pretty much if he did enter against a sizable grappler/kicker..and Vitor does win some fights with just punches but he'd also lose in other fights if it were not for his ground skills..so he is not considered a straight up boxer like Mike Tyson...Vitor is a boxer at heart but has been trained in other areas where as Tyson has not..so like i said..no straight up boxer (yes there was only boxer's competing in the early Ufc's before they got fucked up..either by kicks to the head or submission moves and decided to learn some ground skills..so basically there is no straight up boxer in Ufc's anymore..and if there was they'd be idiots to compete) has won a Ufc/Pride title..

"Let me rephrase the question to make my point clear: Lets put a world-class kickboxer against Bruce Lee (someone like Mirko Filipovic, Mike McDonald, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost, Vanderlei Silva, Remy Bonjasky). Who would win if the kickboxer was not allowed to throw kicks or take him to the ground? Most people would say the kickboxer. Then why the hell would Mike Tyson be any different? He is a better boxer than any of those guys.

[MK]"

Who exactly is most people?you can definitely speak for yourself but saying most people would say Bruce would lose to all of those guys..and without the ability to kick?!cmon now you're just discrediting the crap outta Bruce without any proof is absurd... "why would Mike Tyson be any different?"a better boxer?i've never seen any of them fight Mike so i can't say but you sure are saying a mouthful..Mike is played out..he had his 15 minutes(which was a great 15 minutes) ..went to jail and from then on hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning..i compare Bruce's speed to Roy Jone's..but with the ability to kick..and we all know Roy would rip Tyson a new one so i definitely think Bruce would have no problems taking him out... and no he is not 5' fucking feet tall..small yes..but not weak and insignificant like a lot of you guys are saying

"P.S. Did any of you read the post where the guy said he (he being the man who posted, not Bruce Lee) was "probably faster than Mike Tyson." I have another question, just to see how much the Lee-supporters know...who throws a faster punch? Mike or Bruce? If you say Bruce, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you..."

have your real estate agent contact mines please

Also, about Mike Tyson having no knowledge outside of the ring, the guy has been in more fights (in ring/out of ring/in prison) than probably any 5 people on this board combined.

Well Bruce didn't exactly live in a damn shoebox all his life either...he fought opponents and nay sayers all his life...

Also, he is good friends in RL with the real Mark Kerr and he is a HUGE fan of MMA and K-1 (he recently went to a K-1 event, has a contract with K-1, and was called out by Bob Sapp.) The man has rolled with Mark Kerr before (MK himself talked about it in interviews, it is no secret).

wow he knows people...and he watching live K-1 events ringside..that must make him a superb fighter...p.s. when he got called out..did that fight ever happen? probably won't either..because he's ch-ch-ch-chicken

 

[Grizzly]

I forgot to add this: Here's what's silly about TMA's; the cross-body blocking is riddiculous. If a guy throws a jab at you using his left hand, why on earth would you use your left hand to sweep it away when you could simply parry it with your right hand and move your head. Doing it the TMA way leaves you incredibly open to the next punch. Plus, the motion is so long you'd end up getting hit much more often than you'd end up blocking it.

Here's a funny one: I was reading BlackBelt magazine. There was a piece on how to defend a knife attack. If a guy lunges at you with a knife, it said to push his hands to the side with both of your arms and then give him a ridge hand to the eyes. WTF is that!?! Why on earth would a sane person try and hit a 1" target with a strike that could just as easily break your fingers when they could punch the bitch nigger in the side of the head? It makes absolutely no sense at all. NONE!