Mike Tyson Vs. Bruce Lee

[AnabolicAnimal]

no no they haven't reserected bruce lee, and even though tyson would fight anyone for money right about now, it's not going to be on pay per view any time soon. but it has been a debate among my friends for years now and though i wont say which side i'm on. i will only point out the obvious fact that tyson was also pretty dam fast and outweighting bruce by close to 100lbs of muscle. please keep in mind this is when tyson was in his prime(i'm sure some board members could give him a run for his money now), and in a no holds bared stright fight. no don king, no entrence music,kind of if they meet at a bar one day and bruce stepped on mikes brand new nikes. come on who takes it tyson or bruce lee?

 

[Mark Kerr]

Well, considering most of Bruce Lee's mystique is myth, and the fact he was about 75% actor, 25% fighter, he was a great martial artist. With that being said, in a real fight, Mike Tyson would probably kill him. Once distance was closed, Mike Tyson would have beat him to death. If you say "Bruce was black belt, kicking, speed...blah blah blah," you obviously dont remember how HORRIBLE the standard martial arts (karate, tae kwon do, ect.) did in the UFC. In short, Jeet Kun Do (Bruce's martial art) is a nice sport for your 5 year old to study, but boxing has been proven in the streets again and again.

[MK]

 

[fatboy]

mike tyson now or mike tyson 10 years ago?
I would have to give it to bruce, although if tyson got ahold of him it would bring new meaning to, eating chinese.

 

[eleven11]

mike tyson now or mike tyson 10 years ago?
I would have to give it to bruce, although if tyson got ahold of him it would bring new meaning to, eating chinese.

All the karate in the world won't help you take a better shot. no 120lb man could take his punch..........11

 

[Bob Smith]

Tyson to the end.

Also, IIRC, Tyson normally fought at about 210 pounds and Lee was pushing 150. Not exactly 100 pounds of muscle, but certainly a major difference.

 

[Grizzly]

Mark Kerr has "caught the correct" LOL

 

[Whoaimskinny]

Mark Kerr has "caught the correct" LOL

i'd have to go with Bruce...Mark Kerr says he's 75% actor and 25% fighter..i think it's the other way around..if you've seen interviews and such then you'd remember the one about him and Bolo Yeung(who's a bad ass mofo himself) getting into it on the set of Enter the Dragon and Bolo got his ass whipped even though he had "100lbs"*sarcasm* more muscle then Mr.Lee..and then there was that one fight scene with Chuck Norris that was fake until someone got hit then it was ON...and Norris got beat (you didn't see the footage because Lee had fucked up the camera after the bad take..he would never allow anyone to film him actually getting hit) even though he was a big guy that could actually fight..i mean Tyson has a mean ass punch and if Bruce got hit it'd be over but if you can't hit the target then it's useless..it's one thing to close the gap of a arms distance and get inside but throw legs into that equation and it different...one kick of Bruce's would equal or be stronger then that of Tyson's punch...and i say Bruce is quicker and would hit him first which would lead to victory....legs=longer reach,smaller=speed,speed=power....and to compare some of these traditional guys that first fought in the Ufc type events(and got they ass whipped) to Bruce is ludicrous(as Mr.Tyson would say)..that's why he create jeet kune do...a style that was "formless"..it adapted from other styles..jujitsu..kung fu..shit like that..so it wouldn't have a weak point..like in one style where you have a wide stance..it would provide plenty of power but slowed you down..in jeet kune do it would be compromised to where you can get both..mobility and power...and one last thing that showed Bruce's true power...ever heard of the one inch punch?let's see Tyson do that..

 

[Bob Smith]

I just saw a video of him performing that one inch punch crap. To me, it looks more like he just knocked the guy off balance, who then in turn fell over the chair behind him. Theres was nothing that looked powerful in that at all. The "victim" was standing flat footed with a parallel stance, not exactly a great position to be in if youre going to get hit. Ask Grizzly if a parallel stance is ever used for MMA, where real ass-kickers get it on.

 

[Whoaimskinny]

I just saw a video of him performing that one inch punch crap. To me, it looks more like he just knocked the guy off balance, who then in turn fell over the chair behind him. Theres was nothing that looked powerful in that at all. The "victim" was standing flat footed with a parallel stance, not exactly a great position to be in if youre going to get hit. Ask Grizzly if a parallel stance is ever used for MMA, where real ass-kickers get it on.

alright..forget the one inch punch then..he can still bust open a punching bag with his powerful kick(and dont tell me nothing about how the bag is a inanimate object and can't hit back..it still takes a lot of power to do that)..so my vote is still for Bruce...

 

[consistent1]

I go with Tyson for the simple fact that I think he has some true evil in him. We have never seen him fight someone where he was truly threatened. He wouldn't quit in a street fight and would eventually get that shot. Fighting Tyson in a to the death street fight will get you a one way ticket...and it ain't gonna be considered a vacation.

 

[Whoaimskinny]

I go with Tyson for the simple fact that I think he has some true evil in him. We have never seen him fight someone where he was truly threatened. He wouldn't quit in a street fight and would eventually get that shot. Fighting Tyson in a to the death street fight will get you a one way ticket...and it ain't gonna be considered a vacation.

yes..he is truly a crazy motherfucker..and i think that's what gets him beat sometimes..when he goes primal and doesn't think is when the other guy can out think him..which is what Lewis did by keeping him at bay with jabs while he swung wildly and missed and then eventually tired out...in a street fight i say it depends on who he fights..there's just too many variables when there's no rules involved..get kicked in the nuts..gouged in the eyes...getting put on the ground where he's defenseless..he's bad ass but he's only human..which means he can mistakes and that's definitely not a good thing in a street fight..
hmmm i remember that Roy jones Jr. wanted a fight with Tyson..i wonder if that shit is ever gonna happen?now that's a fight i wanna see!

 

[ijustmegdu]

hands down bruce lee. its no contest. the true test would be bruce lee mike tyson tag team vs the gorllia and the bear. or maybe a great white (out of water) and monkey with a knife.

 

[Whoaimskinny]

hands down bruce lee. its no contest. the true test would be bruce lee mike tyson tag team vs the gorllia and the bear. or maybe a great white (out of water) and monkey with a knife.

the Bear would destroy ALL!!...with the gorilla..all you'd have to do is make a small penis joke and it'd quiver and die..(National Geographic Explorer said they gots a 3cm penis or someshit and have sex for less then a minute)..and for the monkey..a trade off would arranged..banana for unedible knife..then of course i'd have to rob the monkey at knife point for my banana back....

 

[oldtimer]

I can't believe i'm actually posting to this thread but here goes.. Mike would kill that small dude, period.

This is for all the people believing in traditional martial arts, they suck in real fights, they SERIOUSLY suck!!.. The only true fighting arts are boxing/kick boxing/grappling, and the obvious mix and match of the three.

I can't believe they had ppl believing this crap for so many years. It's as simple as this, when there is no judge, i'll try to come as close as i can, and if we clinch/go down, all your karate/kung fu is gone. Don't get me wrong, they had me believing that crap for so many years when i was young too, i even learned the so called "street fighting", but it was all CRAP!!. To be a tough fighter, you need to "FIGHT", not "dance", oh they called it "learn the decipline", i forgot and called it "dancing", sorry..

Oh one last thing, not trying to boost Grizz's ego, but i truly believe that he could defeat Lee and Tyson (in his prime), for one simple fact, if he closes the distance, both men are history. Heck, i'd defeat the two if i had more time to train on MMA.

-OT

 

[consistent1]

I can't believe i'm actually posting to this thread but here goes.. Mike would kill that small dude, period.

This is for all the people believing in traditional martial arts, they suck in real fights, they SERIOUSLY suck!!.. The only true fighting arts are boxing/kick boxing/grappling, and the obvious mix and match of the three.

I can't believe they had ppl believing this crap for so many years. It's as simple as this, when there is no judge, i'll try to come as close as i can, and if we clinch/go down, all your karate/kung fu is gone. Don't get me wrong, they had me believing that crap for so many years when i was young too, i even learned the so called "street fighting", but it was all CRAP!!. To be a tough fighter, you need to "FIGHT", not "dance", oh they called it "learn the decipline", i forgot and called it "dancing", sorry..

Oh one last thing, not trying to boost Grizz's ego, but i truly believe that he could defeat Lee and Tyson (in his prime), for one simple fact, if he closes the distance, both men are history. Heck, i'd defeat the two if i had more time to train on MMA.

-OT

Strong statements, and I respect that....but I wouldn't call Tyson anything but "sir". I really think that Mike would love to kill somebody if he could get away with it.

 

[oldtimer]

I encourage everyone to go and read more about fighting, particularly, recent history of fighting. I'm not implying that i know about a lot when it comes down to fighting, in fact i don't know much, but i've been observing it for years and years. I read about gladiators, about bare knuckle fights, about wrestling matches, and aside from the gladiators of rome, most seem to be missing an important issue; when you are fighting someone, you are ruled by the situation, the environment surrounding you, your state (mental/physical), and the options (all possible ones) available to your opponent at a certain point in time. Even bare knuckle fights were not that good as they were so focued on striking (yeah i did love them, but they were for entertainment more than competition).

I remember when some of my friends were talking about Jet Li's "Cradle 2 the Grave" and they were saying he would beat those guys in the movie in real fights.. oh if only they would know..

Finally, i'd like to see what Tyson would do if he gets a double-leg takedown, and his back is on the mat.. yes Mike is strong, and prolly' he'd kill someone if he had a clear shot, but it's that "clear" that is hard to come by when you're against an MMA fighter.

P.S. Geez i can't believe i actually posted twice on this thread..

 

[stevemac]

tyson would be afraid to fight bruce lee because he is a pussy. anyone who knows anything about boxing knows tyson hasn't beat anyone worth mentioning in the last 12+ years. Let me list some of the fighters tyson backed out of negotiations with recently,roy jones,james toney, chris byrd,john ruiz, and more which would of given him multi millions. three of these were shots at a title, and the fight against toney would of rendered the winner the #1 contender for the WBO and IBF. So to say tyson would fight anyone for money is bull, hes only fights pussies but the general public doesn't care because they only wantto see tyson. Boxing fans could care less, I heard tyson's next opponent is ranked 86th in the world. what a chump tyson is.

 

[dolfe1]

I can't believe i'm actually posting to this thread but here goes.. Mike would kill that small dude, period.

This is for all the people believing in traditional martial arts, they suck in real fights, they SERIOUSLY suck!!.. The only true fighting arts are boxing/kick boxing/grappling, and the obvious mix and match of the three.

I can't believe they had ppl believing this crap for so many years. It's as simple as this, when there is no judge, i'll try to come as close as i can, and if we clinch/go down, all your karate/kung fu is gone. Don't get me wrong, they had me believing that crap for so many years when i was young too, i even learned the so called "street fighting", but it was all CRAP!!. To be a tough fighter, you need to "FIGHT", not "dance", oh they called it "learn the decipline", i forgot and called it "dancing", sorry..

Oh one last thing, not trying to boost Grizz's ego, but i truly believe that he could defeat Lee and Tyson (in his prime), for one simple fact, if he closes the distance, both men are history. Heck, i'd defeat the two if i had more time to train on MMA.

-OT

From what are you basing your judgement on? A couple of guys you saw on ultimate fighting? lol Unfortunatly martial arts has been given a bad name due to these people and the everyday martial arts schools around every corner were anyone can get a black belt. And lets get one thing straight, martial arts made Hollywood, Hollywood didn't make martial arts. Yea yea yea everyone knows that in grade school the bigger kid on the playground always won and the bully rule still generaly applys at a mature age. And I would agree that a wrestling/grappling/boxing is a superior basic fighting technique, 90% of fights go to the ground. Martial arts defys the bully rule, the problem is none of these people you see on TV really know martial arts. It is a lifestyle, as well as a fighting/defense technique. This is not something you can take a class for twice a week and uderstand. Sadly with modernization this lifestyle is a dying legacy and I believe soon will only have a place in Hollywood. Bruce Lee studied a deadly fighting style his whole life and was widely accepted as the greatest martial artist ever to live. Martial arts has the ability to overcome strength as the determining factor in who wins a fight for it was the oak tree that broke under the snow not the willow. I beleive that speed and accuracy are more detrimental than the normal clumsy overpowering ideas just not as easily applied. A sudden foot to the temple is more that adequate pressure to knock someone out. Lee is too quick and I garuantee you would not get him on the ground. I believe that speed and accuracy can overcome strength, this is one of the foundations of martial arts and Lee is one of the few that can execute this principle. Lee wins.

 

[killiob]

From what are you basing your judgement on? A couple of guys you saw on ultimate fighting? lol Unfortunatly martial arts has been given a bad name due to these people and the everyday martial arts schools around every corner were anyone can get a black belt. And lets get one thing straight, martial arts made Hollywood, Hollywood didn't make martial arts. Yea yea yea everyone knows that in grade school the bigger kid on the playground always won and the bully rule still generaly applys at a mature age. And I would agree that a wrestling/grappling/boxing is a superior basic fighting technique, 90% of fights go to the ground. Martial arts defys the bully rule, the problem is none of these people you see on TV really know martial arts. It is a lifestyle, as well as a fighting/defense technique. This is not something you can take a class for twice a week and uderstand. Sadly with modernization this lifestyle is a dying legacy and I believe soon will only have a place in Hollywood. Bruce Lee studied a deadly fighting style his whole life and was widely accepted as the greatest martial artist ever to live. Martial arts has the ability to overcome strength as the determining factor in who wins a fight for it was the oak tree that broke under the snow not the willow. I beleive that speed and accuracy are more detrimental than the normal clumsy overpowering ideas just not as easily applied. A sudden foot to the temple is more that adequate pressure to knock someone out. Lee is too quick and I garuantee you would not get him on the ground. I believe that speed and accuracy can overcome strength, this is one of the foundations of martial arts and Lee is one of the few that can execute this principle. Lee wins.

good statement, and well thought out. I totally agree with what dolfe said, and I have read and studied a lot about Bruce Lee and the way he trained there is nobody in the world that has traind like bruce lee, when i think of perfection in the art of fighting, only one name comes in mind and that is Bruce Lee.

 

[AnabolicAnimal]

good statement, and well thought out. I totally agree with what dolfe said, and I have read and studied a lot about Bruce Lee and the way he trained there is nobody in the world that has traind like bruce lee, when i think of perfection in the art of fighting, only one name comes in mind and that is Bruce Lee.

when i think of one guy i would never want to get in a streetfight with, only one name comes to mind and that name is mike tyson.