Modern Fat Loss Stack

[nekojeeta]

I saw Todd Lee talk about a new fat loss stack he is on for prep this year that was put together by Dom Kuza and I was wondering why everyone’s thoughts were on it:

AM:
- 20mcg of Clen
- 1mg of MotsC (injection)
- 600 mg of L-Carnitine (injection)

Every Meal:
- 250mcg of SLU-PP-32

At end of High Carb Days:
- 1 mg of Retatrutide

He mentioned that it’s the easiest prep he has every done (in terms of energy level, hunger control and fat loss rate) and the goal is to basically take the minimum effective dose of each component.

The downsides seem to be that many of these are not well tested in humans and who knows if mixing them adds addition risks or not… but in the flip side having tried most of these at the doses listed, it does seem like to would have minimal side effects and I can see how they can synergistically work together to provide great energy and fat burning effects.

Anyone else tried this stack as I would love to hear more experiences.

 

[TurboJet]

What's wrong with just adjusting your food intake?

I don't understand why anyone would put extra crap in your body when you just need to push the plate back.

Hell just smoke meth, seems to work great for them!

 

[setters]

What's wrong with just adjusting your food intake?

I don't understand why anyone would put extra crap in your body when you just need to push the plate back.

Hell just smoke meth, seems to work great for them!

"He mentioned that it’s the easiest prep he has every done (in terms of energy level, hunger control and fat loss rate)" --> this is why.

 

[pewex]

Nothing wrong with this stack. I actually ran something very similar during my last prep. The only thing I'd personally do differently next time is add Cagrilintide on top of Reta, or switch to Tirz for the last couple of weeks, since Reta didn't do much for my hunger.

I'm also curious why he'd use Reta at the end of high carb days, and how many of those he has per week.

 

[pewex]

I'd also take the L-Carn pre workout with some carbs rather than in the morning. I'm guessing he's using it before fasted cardio.

 

[Flex.AF]

Thats the cutest little dose of clen I've ever seen.

 

[nekojeeta]

What's wrong with just adjusting your food intake?

I don't understand why anyone would put extra crap in your body when you just need to push the plate back.

Hell just smoke meth, seems to work great for them!

Nothing wrong with this stack. I actually ran something very similar during my last prep. The only thing I'd personally do differently next time is add Cagrilintide on top of Reta, or switch to Tirz for the last couple of weeks, since Reta didn't do much for my hunger.

I'm also curious why he'd use Reta at the end of high carb days, and how many of those he has per week.

He said 2 high carb days a week and it was to help with the appetite the following day (I assume he feels more hunger the day after eating more - I know I typically do)

 

[nekojeeta]

I'd also take the L-Carn pre workout with some carbs rather than in the morning. I'm guessing he's using it before fasted cardio.

He did mention fasted cardio in the AM and agreed if it wasn’t to take it with the carbs

 

[Type-IIx]

I saw Todd Lee talk about a new fat loss stack he is on for prep this year that was put together by Dom Kuza and I was wondering why everyone’s thoughts were on it:

AM:
- 20mcg of Clen
- 1mg of MotsC (injection)
- 600 mg of L-Carnitine (injection)

Every Meal:
- 250mcg of SLU-PP-32

At end of High Carb Days:
- 1 mg of Retatrutide

He mentioned that it’s the easiest prep he has every done (in terms of energy level, hunger control and fat loss rate) and the goal is to basically take the minimum effective dose of each component.

The downsides seem to be that many of these are not well tested in humans and who knows if mixing them adds addition risks or not… but in the flip side having tried most of these at the doses listed, it does seem like to would have minimal side effects and I can see how they can synergistically work together to provide great energy and fat burning effects.

Anyone else tried this stack as I would love to hear more experiences.

Clen for some sympathetic drive, partitioning. Retatrutide to drive fat loss a la incretin (GLP-1, GIP, glucagon) action. Everything else is practically superfluous here.

 

[nekojeeta]

Clen for some sympathetic drive, partitioning. Retatrutide to drive fat loss a la incretin (GLP-1, GIP, glucagon) action. Everything else is practically superfluous here.

The explanation Todd gave was interesting… I’m gonna to butcher it, but if you watch the full videos it’s something along the lines of the Clen liberating fat from the fat cells and transporting it to the Mitochondria which run more efficiently and faster due to the combo of the MotsC + SLUPP332.


He also mentions this works well on prep, which is often in the summer, as it doesn’t rely on uncouplers like DNP that make you burn fat via causing excess heat… and since you aren’t generating excessive heat things like cardio is easier. He also mentioned you get all the benefits of each drug and it’s synergies with the side effects

 

[Ateam2023]

The explanation Todd gave was interesting… I’m gonna to butcher it, but if you watch the full videos it’s something along the lines of the Clen liberating fat from the fat cells and transporting it to the Mitochondria which run more efficiently and faster due to the combo of the MotsC + SLUPP332.


He also mentions this works well on prep, which is often in the summer, as it doesn’t rely on uncouplers like DNP that make you burn fat via causing excess heat… and since you aren’t generating excessive heat things like cardio is easier. He also mentioned you get all the benefits of each drug and it’s synergies with the side effects

well "He said",,

 

[nekojeeta]

well "He said",,

He does have an actual medical and biochemistry degree along with being a pro bodybuilder, so his views on at least peds, hydration and weight training hold some credence. But, since I choose not to trust anyone blindly that’s why I seek additional points of view / info here so I can make at least an informed decision on it

 

[TurboJet]

"He mentioned that it’s the easiest prep he has every done (in terms of energy level, hunger control and fat loss rate)" --> this is why.

He said 2 high carb days a week and it was to help with the appetite the following day (I assume he feels more hunger the day after eating more - I know I typically do)

So low effort

IMO it's a click bait YouTube personality trying to draw in fatties offering his opinion on a magic bullet to unfat that big back.

Better living thru science™

 

[nekojeeta]

So low effort

IMO it's a click bait YouTube personality trying to draw in fatties offering his opinion on a magic bullet to unfat that big back.

Better living thru science™

Always some element of promotion with anyone on socials… but go watch the video and some of his other content - the more I research the more I find that him, Joe J from the physique collective, and Jewett have solid advice on how to do peds safely and correctly…


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN4MrTmMA3Q

 

[TurboJet]

Always some element of promotion with anyone on socials… but go watch the video and some of his other content - the more I research the more I find that him, Joe J from the physique collective, and Jewett have solid advice on how to do peds safely and correctly…


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN4MrTmMA3Q

While everyone is entitled to research the way they choose I personally don't listen to social media personalities who's opinions change faster than the wind depending on the sponsors wants/needs and their algorithm score on their chosen platforms.

 

[nekojeeta]

While everyone is entitled to research the way they choose I personally don't listen to social media personalities who's opinions change faster than the wind depending on the sponsors wants/needs and their algorithm score on their chosen platforms.

Cool, I find those that refuse to be open to listening to new potential information, because their ego gets in the way, to be those that don’t evolve and get stuck in the past. But to each their own

 

[TurboJet]

Cool, I find those that refuse to be open to listening to new potential information, because their ego gets in the way, to be those that don’t evolve and get stuck in the past. But to each their own

LoL it's not ego son. It basic, very basic....

You over eat and underperform you get fat.

In a surplus you gain, in a deficit you lose.

Very simple. If you need to implement drug regimens to counter act bad habits that's fine if that's the route you want to take.

It's not good advice. Discipline, it's hard to learn and hard to keep but its a choice just like drug use.

Do what suits you but don't push click bait shit. From Internet gurus.

Are you doing contest prep? Are you planning to hit the stage? If so and you're actually trying to compete in the top 0.0003% by all means use whatever you need to get you there.

 

[nekojeeta]

LoL it's not ego son. It basic, very basic....

You over eat and underperform you get fat.

In a surplus you gain, in a deficit you lose.

Very simple. If you need to implement drug regimens to counter act bad habits that's fine if that's the route you want to take.

It's not good advice. Discipline, it's hard to learn and hard to keep but its a choice just like drug use.

Do what suits you but don't push click bait shit. From Internet gurus.

Are you doing contest prep? Are you planning to hit the stage? If so and you're actually trying to compete in the top 0.0003% by all means use whatever you need to get you there.

This is such a low quality reply - we are literally on a ped focused forum. Why take peds at all? Why not just ‘work harder and be more disciplined, bro’

The world evolves and people find better ways to do things that allows us to reach our goals with less of a struggle… if you want to sit in your cave keep rubbing two sticks together all good.

If you don’t have any useful insights, knowledge, or experience on this combo of drugs then just move on to a different thread to shitpost on.

 

[TurboJet]

This is such a low quality reply - we are literally on a ped focused forum. Why take peds at all? Why not just ‘work harder and be more disciplined, bro’

The world evolves and people find better ways to do things that allows us to reach our goals with less of a struggle… if you want to sit in your cave keep rubbing two sticks together all good.

If you don’t have any useful insights, knowledge, or experience on this combo of drugs then just move on to a different thread to shitpost on.

Just start smoking meth.

 

[dcfreak]

I have been running something similar for the last 20 weeks and it made cutting a breeze. Lost 40 lbs.

Am-
500 mcg injectable SLU-PP-322
600mg L-Carn
500 mcg Ipamorelin

Pre workout-
1mg injectable SLU-PP-322

Pm before bed-
2mg Tesamorelin
250mcg SLU-PP-322

Weekly- 6mg reta split into 2 pins (started at 1mg and titrated up.)

My experience has been positive. I like SLU-PP-322, I feel it has helped- especially with endurance and cardio.