More Pharmacom: Test E

Frank told me that bloodwork doesnt count because I could "fake" it.

So you did no bloodwork.

Did you then take them up on their "send in for testing and get reimbursed" policy?

You are asking a source to send you free gear based on other's bloodwork? If their gear is bunk, why on earth would you want more of it?
 
So you did no bloodwork.

Did you then take them up on their "send in for testing and get reimbursed" policy?

You are asking a source to send you free gear based on other's bloodwork? If their gear is bunk, why on earth would you want more of it?


I only bought two vials of different compounds so of course they are uncapped? Grey it seems like you are a representative,so care to explain why his blood work is so low on 600? Ive gotten 7000ng/dl on 500mg of a different brand. Look through all the threads on here and you will find many with under dosed.The first batch they sent me was fire,I dont want a free vial,I want a vial that I already payed for. All I was suggesting was that MAYBE there was a bad batch as it is a little bit fishy there are a few people complaining about the test. 1000ng/dl for 600mg is SEVERELY under dosed.

I am not sure if you are a sales representative or what but it doesnt make sense that the first batch there was no doubt it was potent and now all of a sudden there is some doubt. 1000ng/dl is simply not an acceptable value. I place SMALL orders grey,I order two vials at a time. I have no way to test if the EQ is real,all I am asking is that pharma looks into this and possibly make things right if there is a mistake. It isn't just a coincidence that so many people around this month and last have been getting low bloods with pharma. I AM NOT saying pharmacom is a scammer or basic,all I am saying is that more than likely they got a bad batch.


I dont like that you are trying to accuse me of trying to get free gear. It isn't free,it's something that I already paid for that isn't working as well as the past test that they gave me. I will repeat this once more,the first batch i ever got from them I absolutely LOVED the gear it was powerful and you could see it in lifts,oily face,random hard ons,puffy and painful nipples. Although the first batch they sent I was switching from a different brand so its impossible to say. I am just giving my two cents here. If getting bloods would help meso out I would be happy to do so.

600mg should equal 6000ng/dl and at a minimum 3000ng/dl. 1000ng/dl is just not possible at those dosages.

Heres another user with low labs:
Pharmacomstore 6 week labs


I can find you more but I guess everyone is "lying" for free gear.
 
Grey it seems like you are a representative

Never think you know who anyone is here. I am no rep, if you think you have some sort of information claiming that I am, please feel free to bring it @mands or @CensoredBoardsSuck or Millard himself. Fire away.

so care to explain why his blood work is so low

His bloodwork is low because his Test was bunk. His test's have exactly nothing to do with you.

Send yours in to get tested. Simple as that. If it' bunk, they pay, you get new gear (though why you would want more shit from someone who sold you oil is beyond me).

Post as many test from others as you like. Doesn't change the fact that you didn't get yours done.

Get it done and show the results. I will be the first to jump to your thread and applaud your efforts to quantify.

Bloodwork (like the OP's) talks, your whinging on about your nipples and cock is a bunch of fucking noise backed by nothing and serves no purpose because it is what reverse scammers do all the time.

Separate yourself from the reverse scammers and get your shit tested.

Meso is no source board, but it also isn't someplace where you get to make claims backed up by nothing and have them taken seriously the way actual tests are.
 
Never think you know who anyone is here. I am no rep, if you think you have some sort of information claiming that I am, please feel free to bring it @mands or @CensoredBoardsSuck or Millard himself. Fire away.



His bloodwork is low because his Test was bunk. His test's have exactly nothing to do with you.

Send yours in to get tested. Simple as that. If it' bunk, they pay, you get new gear (though why you would want more shit from someone who sold you oil is beyond me).

Post as many test from others as you like. Doesn't change the fact that you didn't get yours done.

Get it done and show the results. I will be the first to jump to your thread and applaud your efforts to quantify.

Bloodwork (like the OP's) talks, your whinging on about your nipples and cock is a bunch of fucking noise backed by nothing and serves no purpose because it is what reverse scammers do all the time.

Separate yourself from the reverse scammers and get your shit tested.

Meso is no source board, but it also isn't someplace where you get to make claims backed up by nothing and have them taken seriously the way actual tests are.

Do you even know what reverse scamming is? I was going to get bloods but look at what basic sent me in an email.:

"To be honest, our company head excluded this opportunity because from his experience in our other stores in CIS countries many customers were trying to reverse scam us. There is no way we could know that a customer indeed pinned our product before the blood was taken. It`s not against you personally, this is just a common principle for all. Also, chromatography is the only real way to get the precise result. Blood works can vary pretty much. Same dosage depending on the body weight, live health issues, lot of other factors. We have already submitted dozens or even hundreds of samples and none of them was bunk yet. +/- 10% deviations are a pass. So, only chomotography can provide a 100% reliable result."




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with best regards,
sincerely yours
Pharmacom Labs - Basicstero team

Why would I pay for a blood test when Frank himself is saying that he cant refund me even if I take a blood test because there is no way to tell if someone actually pinned the product. His solution is to spend MORE money to send an uncapped vial(which I dont have since I buy one at a time for this reason) to a lab in Europe of his choice. First of all you do know shipping anabolics is illegal right genius? It is sent to a lab of his choice not yours. Either you are a pharmacom shill or you aren't very intelligent. You ALREADY ADMITTED SOMEONE GOT BUNK PHARMACOM GEAR! The whole premise of your argument is that I am lying to obtain something for "free" that I ALREADY PAYED FOR!

So which one is it? If I have to chalk it up as a loss so be it,but you honestly sound like a representative. I have been trying to get ahold of frank or a basic rep for almost a month.I have been ignored time and time again. His bloods do have something to do with me,I ordered pharma gear and there is proof that atleast some of their gear is either under dosed or bunk.

In case you were too lazy to read. FRANK DOESNT WANT BLOODS!
 
FRANK DOESNT WANT BLOODS!
I don't give two small fucks what Frank wants.

You want us to believe you, get bloodwork (you should anyway because doing steroids by "feeL" is fucking stupid).

If you care what Frank thinks, do what he asked and send your shit in for testing.

Don't have an uncapped vial? Then you are fucked.

In the end, I could care less, since you won't do either one and are therefore a useless whiner.

Without tests Meso won't believe you or care, without testing vials you are pretty unlikely to get more gear from the guy you think sold you bunk gear.

In the end you have simply failed.

Feel free to spend more money with any source while basing your cycle on feelings.
 
I don't give two small fucks what Frank wants.

You want us to believe you, get bloodwork (you should anyway because doing steroids by "feeL" is fucking stupid).

If you care what Frank thinks, do what he asked and send your shit in for testing.

Don't have an uncapped vial? Then you are fucked.

In the end, I could care less, since you won't do either one and are therefore a useless whiner.

Without tests Meso won't believe you or care, without testing vials you are pretty unlikely to get more gear from the guy you think sold you bunk gear.

In the end you have simply failed.

Feel free to spend more money with any source while basing your cycle on feelings.

You already admitted some of pharmacoms test is bunk you STUPID shill. Want me to show you where you admit it?
 
You already admitted some of pharmacoms test is bunk you STUPID shill. Want me to show you where you admit it?


My god you you are thick. The OP absolutely has bunk test.

He has proof as far as I am concerned (though Frank/Darius may not care).

You have "muh dick" and "muh nips".

His gear isn't yours.

He did what he was supposed to and is being shown the respect that deserves.

You did nothing and are being shown the respect that deserves.
 
I am not going to comment further on this thread. I have been contacted by a basic representative and we are hoping to get things sorted.
 
A scenario: member sends vial to SIMEC. Vial is underdosed. Member gets compensated. And after that? Will it be investigated why it was underdosed? It can't be just one vial.

An example: In 2015 a source named MuscleDevelop started their own product line. At some point members started reporting low T levels in lab tests. MD looked into it. Their lab chemists made a calculation mistake and accurately underdosed a whole batch of Test-E at 100 mg/mL instead of 300mg/mL. MD sent replacements to everyone affected.
 
I am not going to comment further on this thread. I have been contacted by a basic representative and we are hoping to get things sorted.
While you're chit-chating with them try to send them my way. Frank and Pharmacom Helper haven't responded to my PM I sent a few days ago.
 
Will it be investigated why it was underdosed?


Would likely depend on the lab.

Most UGLs are going to at least claim to have found the problem. Depends on your level of credulity as to how far that claim goes with you.
 
your a junior member and I have 6 bloods saying they are good lol.
OK funny guy, bloods really only tell you about the testosterone that you are running. How do you decipher if your Tren, Dbol, EQ, etc is correctly dosed? Elevated liver values and RBC can give you clues, but you can still be given fake DBOL that does nothing for you anabolically but will fuck up your liver just to give you the impression that what you have is gtg.
 
I already posted this in the pharmacom thread but was bitched at and called a liar and then pushed to the side. After 7 weeks of running Test E @ 600mg/wk, Tren @400mg/wk and tbol @50mg/wk I got this bloodwork done. Testosterone is only 1091 ng. I believe legitimate Test would put me at around the 4000 ng mark. I didn't feel anything from 6 weeks of tbol i ran (no strength or size) Although my liver looks to have reacted to it. I've never ran Tren before, but the benefits and side effects are far less than what i was expecting. I am a little more vascular, but only a very small strength increase in my legs. I am a little more pissed off at times, can get minor random cramps and the back of my head feels like it got mist sprayed on it (minor night sweats). So I'm thinking the tren is a bit underdosed.
Now, i also had my test levels checked 3.5 weeks in and they came back much higher @2800 ng. 3.5 weeks was probably a little too early and the test probably hadn't peaked yet (bare in mind I run TRT at 175mg/wk which puts me at 1000-1100ng). I've been using Pharmacom's Test E 300mg for my injections. These labs were done when i was using different vials (i finish 1 at week 5 and moved onto the 2nd).
What do you think? one vial of Test E 300 was good and the other was bad?
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Tren no matter the amount will fuck with your test level results. I would just cruise after your cycle and about week 7 do bloodwork again. Never used pharmacom but I have seen good and not so good reviews
 
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