I think those work for those who have poor mithocondrial efficiency to begin with. I seem to respond super well to most mithocondrial efficiency stuff. rn methyline blue + Carnitine is great. more energy, better focus, better pumps and slightly improved fat loss.What do you expect from them? I still got a ton of l-carnitine and kits of mots-c left. Never got anything out of either. L-carnitine just made me feel warm. Nothing from mots-c and I megadose everything I use lol...Not even worth the hassle of injecting for me.
If you already have good mithocondrial function you might not get much from this stuff
