My Anavar only cycle results (50mg ed)

[Gaia262]

After



Before


Going to add 350mg primobolan each week on my next cycle.

No testosterone used. No physical side effects.

Slight headache/irritability.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

I’m sure the bloods look great and there is no issues with having zero test or e2 in the system

 

[BodyMechanic]

After

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Before

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Going to add 350mg primobolan each week on my next cycle.

No testosterone used. No physical side effects.

Slight headache/irritability.

How old are you? It's important to research the long term effects of AAS before ~26

No visible sides you mean.

Without getting in too deep, since you're doing this. Split your dose into two. Var has a short half-life.

Do some research and look into PCT.

 

[Gaia262]

View attachment 142319I’m sure the bloods look great and there is no issues with having zero test or e2 in the system

Tried to make a funny in response, but you didnt seem amused so edited it.

 

[Gaia262]

How old are you? It's important to research the long term effects of AAS before ~26

No visible sides you mean.

Without getting in too deep, since you're doing this. Split your dose into two. Var has a short half-life.

Do some research and look into PCT.

28, i take in the morning and evening.

I am on PCT nolvadex , but feel my headaches are due to Low E.

Will run Anavar and primobolan for 4 weeks from now on instead of 6.

Is taking nolvadex, when you are low E a smart move? Seems to contribute to the neurotoxicity.

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[BodyMechanic]

28, i take in the morning and evening.

I am on PCT nolvadex , but feel my headaches are due to Low E.

Will run Anavar and primobolan for 4 weeks from now on instead of 6.

Is taking nolvadex, when you are low E a smart move?

Research Arimidex vs Aromisin vs Nolva

For me Nolva is emergency only Arimidex is my go to.

Take bloods before, in cycle, and after. Learn how your body is responding.

Research Var bro Var has low androgenic effects. Obviously we are all different and respond different to compounds, but Nolva for Var may be overkill. Take AI and dose when you see E problem in bloods. Good to have handy though .

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You're fucking yourself up.

Yes, its very likely the headaches are from low E. Why? because your natural testosterone is suppressed and isn't converting to estrogen. Low E sucks. High E sucks. That's why you need to dial everything in and do it the correct way.

Nolvadex for PCT?? Ugh. You need something to get your LH and FSH going again. Clomid would be a better option and HCG would be an even better option.

I forget, why is it that you are determined to NOT use exogenous testosterone? You appear to have made progress with the anavar only, but that won't be keepable. You'll forever yo-yo back and forth. Not to mention you're going to be hurting each time your natural testosterone is suppressed. Primobolan will crush your E2 even moreso, since it has an Anti-estrogen like effect similar to masteron.

 

[Gaia262]

Research Arimidex vs Aromisin vs Nolva

For me Nolva is emergency only Arimidex is my go to.

Take bloods before, in cycle, and after. Learn how your body is responding.

Research Var bro Var has low androgenic effects. Obviously we are all different and respond different to compounds, but Nolva for Var may be overkill. Take AI and dose when you see E problem in bloods. Good to have handy though .

Bro aramidix and aromasin are AI's its not needed for me on Anavar only as it doesnt convert to oestrogen.

Nolva is for PCT to stimulate testosterone production. However, i still have a libido, but a headache which i am sure is from Low oestrogeon, so need to know if Nolvadex when low oestrogeon is a good idea.

Im reading articles its neurotoxic thinking of just letting my body recover naturally from Anavar and primo only

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Research Arimidex vs Aromisin vs Nolva

For me Nolva is emergency only Arimidex is my go to.

Take bloods before, in cycle, and after. Learn how your body is responding.

Research Var bro Var has low androgenic effects. Obviously we are all different and respond different to compounds, but Nolva for Var may be overkill. Take AI and dose when you see E problem in bloods. Good to have handy though .

Re-Read what he posted. He's doing anavar ONLY, no Testosterone so he doesn't need an AI or a SERM because he's got no estrogen issue and won't even have an estrogen rebound. He's way off on what he's doing.

 

[Gaia262]

You're fucking yourself up.

Yes, its very likely the headaches are from low E. Why? because your natural testosterone is suppressed and isn't converting to estrogen. Low E sucks. High E sucks. That's why you need to dial everything in and do it the correct way.

Nolvadex for PCT?? Ugh. You need something to get your LH and FSH going again. Clomid would be a better option and HCG would be an even better option.

I forget, why is it that you are determined to NOT use exogenous testosterone? You appear to have made progress with the anavar only, but that won't be keepable. You'll forever yo-yo back and forth. Not to mention you're going to be hurting each time your natural testosterone is suppressed. Primobolan will crush your E2 even moreso, since it has an Anti-estrogen like effect similar to masteron.

I avoid all the side effects from injecting Test such as hpta damage, no libido, shutdown, gyno, ageing etc.

Here i get minimal effects so far zero physical side effects.. my body is where i want it to be but this headache. Which i got after 4 weeks. So think 4 weeks is the time for me to stop not 6 weeks.

Just need under 1kg muscle more which i hope primo will give me.

Its a perfect cycle for my goals just this headache i need to find the root cause for which is oesteogeon related i know.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Bro aramidix and aromasin are AI's its not needed for me on Anavar only as it doesnt convert to oestrogen.

Nolva is for PCT to stimulate testosterone production. However, i still have a libido, but a headache which i am sure is from Low oestrogeon, so need to know if Nolvadex when low oestrogeon is a good idea.

Im reading articles its neurotoxic thinking of just letting my body recover naturally from Anavar and primo only

You need to do some more reading. Nolvadex blocks estrogen (and the negative feedback loop associated with high estrogen). So taking it for PCT in your case is wrong.

You’re misled on testosterone. If you’re worried about sides, take a very low weekly dose. But you need to take it. Anavar and primobolan are mild but they still suppress your natural testosterone levels.

 

[M@NU]

I avoid all the side effects from injecting Test such as hpta damage, no libido, shutdown, gyno, ageing etc.

Here i get minimal effects so far zero physical side effects.. my body is where i want it to be but this headache. Which i got after 4 weeks. So think 4 weeks is the time for me to stop not 6 weeks.

Just need under 1kg muscle more which i hope primo will give me.

Its a perfect cycle for my goals just this headache i need to find the root cause for which is oesteogeon related i know.

seriously?
you should definitly inform yourself before writing such a BS..

 

[Gaia262]

You need to do some more reading. Nolvadex blocks estrogen (and the negative feedback loop associated with high estrogen). So taking it for PCT in your case is wrong.

You’re misled on testosterone. If you’re worried about sides, take a very low weekly dose. But you need to take it. Anavar and primobolan are mild but they still suppress your natural testosterone levels.

i had a feeling taking nolvadex is counter intuitive. Going to get rid of it. Thanks for that.

Interested in HCG it makes sense.

I will try one more cycle Anavar (50mg) and Primo (50mg a day) 4 weeks not 6. If i get a headache again then i will see about testosterone or reduce my doses.

Its a shame as this is a perfect side effect free cycle that gives lean muscle. Its just perfect.

 

[Freakmidd]

Its a shame as this is a perfect side effect free cycle that gives lean muscle. Its just perfect.

Here's where you're mistaken, it is not side effect free.. getting headaches is a "SIDE EFFECT" and your experiencing this because you're body is lacking naturally occurring hormones(testosterone and estrogen).. why would any man want to be without testosterone? To be the "perfect" cycle you should be supplementing at least enough to allow your test/estrogen to be somewhere around normal range.

 

[Human_backhoe]

Its a shame as this is a perfect side effect free cycle that gives lean muscle. Its just perfect

Lol we warned against doing this. Get back to us in a couple weeks.

No it's not perfect! You need physiological of testosterone at a minimum!

You realize that there is a lot more to this than YOU understand? Please explain the effect of your cycle on the endothelial lining of your arteries? Specifically what part the androgen receptors play in that! Please explain to us all how you know better about the Neuro protective effects of having T and E2 at the correct ratio.

 

[FlyGuy3232]

Take HCG during the cycle. Stop when you're off. It is to prevent atrophy.

HCG doesn't kickstart anything, it can actually be suppressive of natural hpta.

Its just to keep the testes active.

You need to take testosterone or at least dbol (which you shouldn't do) for health reasons.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Tried to make a funny in response, but you didnt seem amused so edited it.

I did see it and was I fact amused. I was driving and currently taking a shit which is why I am responding, usually I post when I take shits. But fact of the matter is you’re going to be damanging not only your hormone system, but your heart, liver, and neurological systems.

Research how important the basic hormones of estrogen and testosterone are, not for muscle building but just normal bodily functions. It’s a whole cascade of issues.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Bro aramidix and aromasin are AI's its not needed for me on Anavar only as it doesnt convert to oestrogen.

Nolva is for PCT to stimulate testosterone production. However, i still have a libido, but a headache which i am sure is from Low oestrogeon, so need to know if Nolvadex when low oestrogeon is a good idea.

Im reading articles its neurotoxic thinking of just letting my body recover naturally from Anavar and primo only

LH and FSH stimulate testosterone production.

 

[Oldschool]

This whole anavar only bullshit stinks like faggot.
Sorry @ickyrica

Had to steal your line

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Take HCG during the cycle. Stop when you're off. It is to prevent atrophy.

HCG doesn't kickstart anything, it can actually be suppressive of natural hpta.

Its just to keep the testes active.

You need to take testosterone or at least dbol (which you shouldn't do) for health reasons.

I thought HCG works to effectively mimic LH which is one part of the HPTA feedback loop.