My Anavar only cycle results (50mg ed)

Dude get over the fear of needles and just get on test...
Will be injecting 350mg primo a week and taking 40mg of anavar, I'm not afraid of needles.

Will be doing for 4 weeks from now on, my body is going the direction I want it to.

Yes if I achieved this on just anavar taking testosterone will take me to a whole new level.

I don't like the shutdown aspect of T, gyno, water retention, heart issues, skin ageing. It's an additional layer of stress.

Just in it for 2kg dry muscle/beach body look with minimal side effects . Which I feel a bit of anavar and Primobolan can give.

You guys did laugh at me when I talked about my anavar only cycle that thats for girls and I won't gain anything, and feel that's evidently been proven wrong.

I'm not really "going all in"

I appreciate your help and others on here tbh I leave likes to show appreciation for your time and commitment I'm grateful , I get you are trying to look out for me.
 
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Will be injecting 350mg primo a week and taking 40mg of anavar, I'm not afraid of needles.

Will be doing for 4 weeks from now on, my body is going the direction I want it to.

Yes if I achieved this on just anavar taking testosterone will take me to a whole new level.

I don't like the shutdown aspect of T, gyno, water retention, heart issues, skin ageing. It's an additional layer of stress.

Just in it for 2kg dry muscle/beach body look with minimal side effects . Which I feel a bit of anavar and Primobolan can give.

You guys did laugh at me when I talked about my anavar only cycle that thats for girls and I won't gain anything, and feel that's evidently been proven wrong.

I'm not really "going all in"

I appreciate your help and others on here tbh I leave likes to show appreciation for your time and commitment I'm grateful , I get you are trying to look out for me.
Primo Enanthate or Primo Actetate?

You made some progress on the anavar only cycle, but that will likely be gone in less than 2 weeks.

You need to quit screwing around with PEDs and just work on building a base naturally. You could make the same progress WITHOUT anavar or primo.

Yes, exogenous testosterone will shut you down. But primo and anavar and any other steroid does the same. You’re riding a hormone roller coaster for 2 kilograms of muscle?
 
To the OP: @Gaia262 please read this post.

You say you're worried about your body health so you are literally depriving yourself of testosterone and, by extent, estrogen.

The fact is, low E2 has serious negative impacts on your health, both short and long term. So, by taking anavar only, or even anavar and primo and not at least running TRT levels of Testosterone, you're actually doing more damage to your body than if you were you just take low dose Test along with your other substances.

What I am saying is this: you don't need to blast 500 mgs of test per week, which honestly is what you are scared of based off your concerns you listed. Things like gyno, water retention, skin aging, heart disease--none of those occur at TRT levels of testosterone, and actually having healthy levels of Testosterone will PREVENT these things from occurring.

If you are going to take anavar and primo, you definitely should be taking, say, 100 mg/week of Test E or Test C. It really would benefit your overall health, both mental and physical, and go a long way to reducing your risk of:
- Having healthy levels of test and estrogen are cardioprotective. You DO NOT have these right now, so getting on TRT will actually PREVENT atherosclerosis and heart disease! It will also help improve your lipid biomarkers!!
- Libido issues are an obvious one
- Decreased sleep quality, which has its own set of issues
- Skin and joint issues - low E2 and low Test will cause all kinds of problems, even impaired wound healing/recovery! Replacement levels of these hormones are shown to resolve them!!
- Excess fat deposition, particularly in the belly. You are hamstringing your physique goals by crushing your T and E2 during this anavar only cycle.
- Decreased bone density is a big problem over time
- Mental health problems like depression, low energy
- Additionally, evidence suggests having healthy levels of test and e2 will help protect against strokes, which is something I am sure you do not want to have! This study showed men with low T are more likely to have previous stroke and my may have a higher all-cause mortality rate after actue ischemic stroke
- Lastly, there is even some evidence that low estrogen may increase amyloid-beta plaque accumulation (which is one of the mechanisms of Alzheimer's disease). Not exactly direct evidence, but evidence that it modulates the way amyloid-beta plaque accumulation occurs, this may partially be due to better sleep. There is also direct evidence that healthy estrogen levels impact cognition, and low estrogen levels worsen cognitive capabilities.

So, in summary, by NOT taking ANY testosterone, you are actually doing MORE damage to your body than if you were to take a replacement level (also known as a "test base") with your other anabolic steroids. I hope you take this into consideration, as you seem to be against taking Test because you think it will be better for your health, however it is the exact opposite! By depriving yourself of testosterone and estrogen, you are doing MORE damage to your health while on these cycles.

You have the opportunity to save yourself from many different forms bodily damage by taking a replacement dose of testosterone in order to maintain health hormonal levels throughout your cycle. Not only is there physical health benefits, but you will also feel better mentally, you'll get rid of these headaches you're having, and you will also experience better outcomes regarding your physique goals. All you need to do is add ~50 mg of Test E or Test C twice per week during through anavar/primo cycle. That's it. There is no negative health impact to doing this, really there is only positives.

Good luck man.

This is really all there is to it. We can wrap this thread up now lol. *bows as Meso provides a standing ovation*
 
Will be injecting 350mg primo a week and taking 40mg of anavar, I'm not afraid of needles.

Will be doing for 4 weeks from now on, my body is going the direction I want it to.

Yes if I achieved this on just anavar taking testosterone will take me to a whole new level.

I don't like the shutdown aspect of T, gyno, water retention, heart issues, skin ageing. It's an additional layer of stress.

Just in it for 2kg dry muscle/beach body look with minimal side effects . Which I feel a bit of anavar and Primobolan can give.

You guys did laugh at me when I talked about my anavar only cycle that thats for girls and I won't gain anything, and feel that's evidently been proven wrong.

I'm not really "going all in"

I appreciate your help and others on here tbh I leave likes to show appreciation for your time and commitment I'm grateful , I get you are trying to look out for me.
Your making the wrong decision. You cant just go off of what you feel. You have clinical and anechdotal data that tells you what your doing is bad for your body in more ways than just "hey your dick wont work" or "hey your gonna feel like shit". Why even post if your just going to go off of what you feel. Oh yea thats right because people are extremely prideful and just want reinforcement for what they already think and believe (echo chamber). Thats fine man good luck to ya.
 
Will be injecting 350mg primo a week and taking 40mg of anavar, I'm not afraid of needles.

Will be doing for 4 weeks from now on, my body is going the direction I want it to.

Yes if I achieved this on just anavar taking testosterone will take me to a whole new level.

I don't like the shutdown aspect of T, gyno, water retention, heart issues, skin ageing. It's an additional layer of stress.

Just in it for 2kg dry muscle/beach body look with minimal side effects . Which I feel a bit of anavar and Primobolan can give.

You guys did laugh at me when I talked about my anavar only cycle that thats for girls and I won't gain anything, and feel that's evidently been proven wrong.

I'm not really "going all in"

I appreciate your help and others on here tbh I leave likes to show appreciation for your time and commitment I'm grateful , I get you are trying to look out for me.
you can gain 2kg of muscle by summer with good diet and training.

4 weeks of primo enanthate won't even really do anything because it takes that long just to build up in blood serum and saturate receptors.

620mg of DHT derivatives will absolutely shut you down just as fast as test at a replacement dose.

The test is needed in part to protect you from heart issues. Taking away E2 from your body puts your heart, joints, and brain at risk. Besides that E2 is anabolic and works synergistically with AAS.

You really need to listen to the guys here.

Run a Test Prop cycle for a month if you want something quick.

But don't do this bullshit. You're putting yourself at serious risk for a few lbs of muscle you could gain with hard work anyway.

You always need estrogen, stop acting like you don't. There are studies and tons of people here with experience telling you to stop fucking around.

Doing shit like you're doing is straight drug abuse and what gives this world a bad name.

Listen to the people who know. You're not reinventing the wheel. You're being a dumbass.

Hell, run the classic arnold stack, it'll even be cheaper. Dbol and primo would give you more size and at least keep your estrogen up.

But seriously stop fucking around with your hormones and acting like you know shit. Listen to the people here who know and are trying to help keep you safe.

Otherwise, you'll just be another news story of a kid who died of heart failure in his 20s.
 
I avoid all the side effects from injecting Test such as hpta damage, no libido, shutdown, gyno, ageing etc.
Uh, what? No you don't. All steroids are HPTA suppressive -- every single one of them.

Having low testosterone and E2 has a profoundly negative impact on heart health, negatively affects your lipids and increases your stroke risk. Why are you trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole instead of just using the right peg in the first place? I really don't understand the point of your approach.

If you're worried about testosterone-related side effects, run it at a TRT dose. Leaving it out does more harm than good.
 
Not much on research are we? In no way is suppressing natural hormones without replacing with exogenous means a good thing. Any gains made will be lost through recovery as well as the increase in chances of other adverse effects.

Reading, it also looks like your goals aren’t too crazy so why use AAS at all? At your age your natural hormones are peaking and those goals can be had with good food and a solid training plan. Hell, even bad food and a solid training plan at that age would yield good gains.
 
I avoid all the side effects from injecting Test such as hpta damage, no libido, shutdown, gyno, ageing etc.
Oh jeez. I don't have words.
Here i get minimal effects so far zero physical side effects.. my body is where i want it to be but this headache. Which i got after 4 weeks. So think 4 weeks is the time for me to stop not 6 weeks.

Just need under 1kg muscle more which i hope primo will give me.
1kg?!?!? Seriously? You can't possibly have that as a goal. People gain and lose that in day. Don't know why I'm bothering.
 
Thats true but,I am under the impression that he doesn't actually want advice.
Only approval.

I might be wrong.
Yeah idk, he did like my post that outlined how he is actually doing MORE damage to himself by not using test than he would by using test. Maybe I got through to him a little bit? Maybe he is doing some research and trying to learn more and will realize that the idea of an anavar only cycle, or anavar and primo only cycle, is completely stupid and will NOT work and will likely do more harm than good. It is just insane and I can't for the life of me understand where he got the idea that this was a good thing to do.

Honestly, based off his pic, he really has no business taking steroids anyway. He just needs to do the more lifting and eat more chicken.
 
Yeah idk, he did like my post that outlined how he is actually doing MORE damage to himself by not using test than he would by using test. Maybe I got through to him a little bit? Maybe he is doing some research and trying to learn more and will realize that the idea of an anavar only cycle, or anavar and primo only cycle, is completely stupid and will NOT work and will likely do more harm than good. It is just insane and I can't for the life of me understand where he got the idea that this was a good thing to do.

Honestly, based off his pic, he really has no business taking steroids anyway. He just needs to do the more lifting and eat more chicken.
Naw man. We told him all of this before and he was like “thanks for all the advice” and did it anyway.
 
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