@Diesel10 also had really high IGF-1 on the BlackI pulled some pretty high igf numbers with the bad batch of mauves
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@Diesel10 also had really high IGF-1 on the BlackI pulled some pretty high igf numbers with the bad batch of mauves
Never got CTS, bloat, etc. from any pharma GH, just results. Generics always got bloat, CTS, etc. So by most peoples standards they would say the generics are better because they equate side effects with good GH lol.
I myself haven't taken pharma gh but my buddy takes it and said he never has sides. To add to that on just about everybody who's taking the real gh note that sides don't happen other than fat reduction, weight loss, hand growth, feet get bigger, and height. But how do think basketball players are able to reach full height and have ball handling skills like Kevin durant?But by your standards you're claiming them to be better due to a lack of side effects?
Water retention, subsequent CTS, etc are common amongst all GH regardless of where it was made. All the side effects you're mentioning are listed right in the seros, geno, etc pamphlet insert.
Your buddy said pharmaceutical growth hormone has no sides other than what you listed ?I myself haven't taken pharma gh but my buddy takes it and said he never has sides. To add to that on just about everybody who's taking the real gh note that sides don't happen other than fat reduction, weight loss, hand growth, feet get bigger, and height. But how do think basketball players are able to reach full height and have ball handling skills like Kevin durant?
Nobody has came up with the answer why generics have sides. I haven't bought generics but I'm willing to bet it's mixed with something else that isn't growth.
I mean has anybody taken generic hgh and really seen or recorded significant differences in height. Granted you have to take this year round. I'm curious to hear if somebody out there has.
So unless each kit of generic is getting tested there really isn't certainty that what is claimed is in the vial, that's what I've collected. To get a kit tested might equal what 100iu of pharm would be in the first place? It seems no brainer if certainty is available why go any other route?
Most of these black mauve grey whatever top there's a minimum kit requirement which is about the same for a bit less of pharm
@Eman @mands thoughts?
I myself haven't taken pharma gh but my buddy takes it and said he never has sides. To add to that on just about everybody who's taking the real gh note that sides don't happen other than fat reduction, weight loss, hand growth, feet get bigger, and height. But how do think basketball players are able to reach full height and have ball handling skills like Kevin durant?
Nobody has came up with the answer why generics have sides. I haven't bought generics but I'm willing to bet it's mixed with something else that isn't growth.
I mean has anybody taken generic hgh and really seen or recorded significant differences in height. Granted you have to take this year round. I'm curious to hear if somebody out there has.
Sorry for the confusion, and as I'm typing this I'm realizing it doesn't make since lol. I was going say, min order of x tops is 3 kits comes out around 500 why not get 127iu serostim for a little more. BUT just realized x tops would be 200+ more iu. Disregard lolPharm is 3-5x more expensive than generic... Not sure what you mean by it being the same for a bit less than pharm.
Blacks, mauves and greys all trend very well as far as testing, I don't think it's necessary to test every single kit. I think it's important for the community to routinely test so a trend can be established, not until AAS.
Yikes. I basically disagree with every sentence you just typed... The only reason I'm responding to you is to clarify if you're saying that Kevin Durant achieved his height via HGH?
Please post any scientific evidence you have or seen. I am sure if its true there must be some tests done on vials that show other substances. But no one has evidence of this.
That should tell you something if you're getting high IGF numbers from a bad batch of GH. The only generics I ever used that I thought were even close to pharma GH were the greys from PD. After using them for a year and switching back to Serostim I realized they weren't close either. Serum numbers do not tell the whole story. You have some generics scoring far higher than pharma GH, and are they as good? No. There is no quality control with generics, period. Back in the Kigtropin days, one of the main guys even admitted that in China they will fill kits with vials that have different amounts of GH in them. For example, he said a kit might have half the vials dosed accurately at 10iu, then a couple with only 4iu, and the rest might have nothing in them at all. Sure there might be some GH in the vial of generics, but what else is in there causing the water retention a lot of generics cause? Anyone that thinks anyone from China gives a shit what is in that vial is mistaken, they don't give a shit how pure it is. They care about money and that is it. I've used every brand of USA made GH, all 100% legit straight out of the pharmacy, and no generic compares. Never got CTS, bloat, etc. from any pharma GH, just results. Generics always got bloat, CTS, etc. So by most peoples standards they would say the generics are better because they equate side effects with good GH lol.
I had no sides for a month running 4 IU ED from day one with Mauve, even psyched myself reading all the recommendations always begin at 1 or 2 IU and ramp up or you will balloon, hands will be numb for days and all that yadda yadda, guess what it is all subjective, fat burn was there from the get go, by own observation and peer review also, vascularity increased extremely much, appetite 1 month in jumped to a new high, arms were getting pumped while reconstituting by just holding the vial an extended period of time with my hand and I have a thread with analytical proof they are working which is why I yell bullshit at your write up without any insult meantThat should tell you something if you're getting high IGF numbers from a bad batch of GH. The only generics I ever used that I thought were even close to pharma GH were the greys from PD. After using them for a year and switching back to Serostim I realized they weren't close either. Serum numbers do not tell the whole story. You have some generics scoring far higher than pharma GH, and are they as good? No. There is no quality control with generics, period. Back in the Kigtropin days, one of the main guys even admitted that in China they will fill kits with vials that have different amounts of GH in them. For example, he said a kit might have half the vials dosed accurately at 10iu, then a couple with only 4iu, and the rest might have nothing in them at all. Sure there might be some GH in the vial of generics, but what else is in there causing the water retention a lot of generics cause? Anyone that thinks anyone from China gives a shit what is in that vial is mistaken, they don't give a shit how pure it is. They care about money and that is it. I've used every brand of USA made GH, all 100% legit straight out of the pharmacy, and no generic compares. Never got CTS, bloat, etc. from any pharma GH, just results. Generics always got bloat, CTS, etc. So by most peoples standards they would say the generics are better because they equate side effects with good GH lol.
I'll leave it at that. That's all I was trying to say.
But maybe people aren't testing for the right thing who knows???
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
This rumor is heavy on the streets.Love how people say generic hgh has some mystical substance in it that give sides, Please post any scientific evidence you have or seen. I am sure if its true there must be some tests done on vials that show other substances. But no one has evidence of this. So please don't talk out your ass unless you have some proof.
Ya man! Heavy metals is what does it.Did you even read the responses to your vague speculations? Sides like CTS and bloat is common between generic and pharma GH. It's not so debilitating that you can't hold a ball, ffs.
What do you think is "in there" that's causing sides? Heavy metals?
Way to long! LolOff topic but does anyone know how long TP's domestic shipping takes?
I was asked in another thread what my top 5 generic GH brands would be. These are all the ones I have personally ran or running. I have come to this ranking with IGF-1 scores, side effects and what they have done to my physique. I have made two list for ranking them. One which takes into consideration price per iu and one that does not.
This ranking DOES take into consideration price per iu.
1. Mauve Tops
2. Black Tops
3. Godtropin
4. Grey Tops
5. Somastim
This ranking DOES NOT take into consideration price per iu.
1. Grey Tops
2. Mauve Tops
3. Black Tops
4. Somastim
5. Godtropin
There are other generics out there that are still good IMO. These are just my personal choices.
mands
The generics are actually cheaper than thatSorry for the confusion, and as I'm typing this I'm realizing it doesn't make since lol. I was going say, min order of x tops is 3 kits comes out around 500 why not get 127iu serostim for a little more. BUT just realized x tops would be 200+ more iu. Disregard lol
