My Dnp Experience

[Fronkthis]

Well Im in the midst of a cutter.

Prop/EQ for AAS.

also using Jino, T3, and clen.

I decided to do a small stint of DNP once I got off my drols.

it was my first time with DNP so I went with the guidlines and did 200mg for the first 4 days and then did 400mg for 4 more.

Didnt notice any heat until day 4. And even then it was minor.
Day 5 I was burning HOT. even just talking would result in buckets of sweat pouring off.

I had to rip up my living room carpet and put down a new one, and that included all of the furniture being moved back and fourth.

I thought I was gonna DIE, too much activity. basically on DNP you cant hardly do any. I got a stuffy nose from the dust from under the rug.
So now im exhausted, sweaty, lethargic, cranky, and stuffy. OMG I felt like complete shit.

Now the fat burning on the other hand was worth it. I lost about 6 lbs of fat total in 9 days. AMAZING. I would have lost more if it wasnt for the most
UNDERRATED AND UNDERDISCUSSED SIDE EFFECT.....................
......CARB CRAVINGS!!!!!!

Now I normally got my sweet tooth under control, but I literally lost my mind and my diet. It started with I was at a small get toghter and there was pastries there, I didnt eat any the whole time until the end when they were about to throw away the canolies. I couldnt just let that happen so I ate two.
I figured no big deal, I could use a treat, im sop dan strict.
the next night, I got doughnuts from krispy kreme. next night oreo cookies and milk. and the last night 5 buttermilk pancakes w syrup.

I couldnt control myself, but I STILL BURNED FAT. I know its nuts, I burned crazy hot for two hours after each of those cheats but I still lost fat.

So the point of this post is DO NOT underestimate the severity of the carb cravings.

Also does anyone know the reason for tyhe carb cravings? Maybe the fat cell senses its getting creamed and pumps out more leptin in response?

 

[testy-one]

Damn bro, you lost 6lbs of fat in 9 days. Hey krispy kreme does sound pretty good

 

[jamesdal7]

I lost 8 pounds in 9 days and 3 days later, i lost an additional 3 pounds, DNP works great but at 600mg a day, it's rough and I didn't use T3 which was a big mistake. I'm going to do another cycle of DNP in about 3 weeks and will add T3.

 

[Heretic]

I find using ephedrine helps with the carb cravings, I'm not sure what causes them other than the fact that your body is burning up all it's carbs because of the DNP so possibly it is demanding more. And yeah you burn like a mofo after going on a carb binge, so it's something you want to avoid. But as you can see even after a kripsy kreme binge you can still come out leaner.
Regards,
-H-

 

[res]

I find using ephedrine helps with the carb cravings, I'm not sure what causes them other than the fact that your body is burning up all it's carbs because of the DNP so possibly it is demanding more. And yeah you burn like a mofo after going on a carb binge, so it's something you want to avoid. But as you can see even after a kripsy kreme binge you can still come out leaner.
Regards,
-H-

Is it the ephedra itself that helps? Would some of the ephedra free products work? H is right about the it controlling your appetite. I had to make myself eat. I just finished about 30 days of DNP and T3. It feels very good not to sweat and be out of breath all the time. I can see my abs for the first time EVER. In a month or so I may try to run just 200 mg eod to see how I feel. Has anyone done this for an extended period of time? Say a few months or so. Now that fall is coming it should make DNP more bearable.

 

[Flippa]

Is it the ephedra itself that helps? Would some of the ephedra free products work? H is right about the it controlling your appetite. I had to make myself eat. I just finished about 30 days of DNP and T3. It feels very good not to sweat and be out of breath all the time. I can see my abs for the first time EVER. In a month or so I may try to run just 200 mg eod to see how I feel. Has anyone done this for an extended period of time? Say a few months or so. Now that fall is coming it should make DNP more bearable.

Hey RES, what was your 30 day cycle like? I'm thinking of doing a slow and low DNP cycle. How much DNP and T-3 and how did you cycle it? Thanks.

 

[bigntasty21]

Hey RES, what was your 30 day cycle like? I'm thinking of doing a slow and low DNP cycle. How much DNP and T-3 and how did you cycle it? Thanks.

DNP in my opinion is the best fat burner....bar NONE...i went on my cutting diet from 22% bodyfat to 5%...threw in the DNP when i was around 15% and it took my all the way down to 5%...in about 8 weeks or a little more...and it was definately worth it...had energy on it, not alot, but enough to get through everyday activities..i found using a little ephedra definately helped with energy and carb cravings...

 

[res]

Hey RES, what was your 30 day cycle like? I'm thinking of doing a slow and low DNP cycle. How much DNP and T-3 and how did you cycle it? Thanks.

I ran 600 mg the first 4 day sand then went 400-600-400 up to about day 10 to 12. It got to be a blur, then alternated between 400 and 200 pretty much the rest of the way through. I did finish the last week at just 200 mg. Even if I was going to do a low dose longer cycle, I would start the first few days higher. You don't really feel bad until day 4 anyway. At least I don't. T3 I stayed at 75 mcg ed until close to the end and I started ramping down by 25 mcg increments every 4-5 days. Actually have a cruise coming up or I would have run it longer. I will probably run 200 mg ed or eod for a few months after I get back.

After running 400 and 600, 200 is a breeze. I haven't ever run just 200 for any length of time. That is probably what I will try next.

 

[eerievon77]

I got 100tabs of --H-- DNP, Im planning on starting it thursday. Actually got it over the summer but was too scared to run it. I did mad research on it. Ive herd of people carb depleating for 3 days.( Thats Tuff) Anyhows, Im 6ft.1 288 wanna lean down as much as possible. Figure Ill do 14 days goin up to 400mg a day. Wanna know when I do 400mg do I take it at once or 1 in the early part of my day and 1 later in the day? or at once? holla back please.

 

[hardontest]

QUOTE: "Wanna know when I do 400mg do I take it at once or 1 in the early part of my day and 1 later in the day? or at once?"

Bro, NO!! Take one in the morning, then one in the early evening.

Good luck

 

[eerievon77]

Thank You My Good Man!!!!!

 

[RovinC]

Im on about my 40th day of H's DNP at 200mg a day.
I am also taking 30mcg's of T3, 2x a day.
I am on 250mg T cyp EW for HRT (seems high but blood tests show I need it)
I have dropped from 231 to 205 as of now.
My goal is 190-195
I have to say esp the last few weeks my diet has sucked and have done little to no exercise.
I just reordered and plan to keep running it at this until mid Nov when I head to Hawaii.
Anyone suggest what to take to try and cut more and even a bit of size? Like winny or tren e? I feel weaker for sure, but my waist line is much smaller which counts more right now.
I read on the site H refers to that they actually recommend a 60/30/10 diet for max results. So 60% carbs, 30% protien and 10% (or lower) fat.
I may try that and see if my results change.
I have tried T3 alone, Clen, ECA, Hgh at 2-3IU a day and EVERY fat burner out there, and this is the ONLY one that has really worked.

Thank You My Good Man!!!!!

 

[eerievon77]

Hopefully more peeps will drop a line about the DNP cycle

 

[Heretic]

When I said 60/30/10 I mean protein, cabs, fat, not carbs, protein, fat. DNP is muscle sparing but as long as you need to eat a minimum amount of calories you may as well try and get most of them from protein, it's the one thing DNP doesn't really use for fuel. The more carbs you eat the hotter you will get, but that doesn't mean avoid them either, and there is no reason to carb deplete before a DNP cycle, DNP will do that for you in the first day or two.
Make sure you only use 200mg the first four days to see how you handle it and then you can go up to 400mg from there for as long as you can handle that.
Regards,
-H-

 

[RovinC]

On the site: http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnpforside

it says "This is what Im proposing to be the optimal DNP diet (for a high dose short cycle(s) and the end of a low dose extended cycle only):

50% carbs, 35% protein, 15% fat. Its not a misprint; carbs are essential for DNP to work properly. Keep in mind that its only the percentage that changes and not the total calories. From this point it will get a bit complicated, but read over it a few times and you will get the gist of it. Ill also try to keep it as simple as possible."

and

"Here's the proof as to WHY having a HIGH CARB intake while on DNP(if Kcal's are kept the same) is BETTER."

http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnp9.htm


"Ok, Lets Use Bodybuilder 1 and Bodybuilder 2.

Bodybuilder 1 eats 2000Kcal/day composed of 60% carbs,
30% protein, 10% fat

Bodybuilder 2 eats 2000Kcal/day composed of 40% fat/30%
protein/ 30% carbs (Basically a zone-type diet)

Now:

Carbs convert to glucose with 100% efficiency
Protein converts to glucose with 58% efficiency and the
rest is ketones.
Fat converts to glucose at 10% and the rest are ketones.

Ketones btw=Fats

DNP, btw BURNS DIETARY FAT BEFORE STORED FAT.
REMEMBER that fact!!!!!

So,

Bodybuilder 1 produces the following by-products:

60% carbs / 2000Kcal= 1200Kcal/4Kcal/g=300g glucose(carbs)
30% protein/2000Kcal= 600Kcal/4Kcal/g=150g protein,
*0.58%= 87g glucose and 63g ketones.
10% Fat/ 2000Kcal= 200Kcal/9Kcal/g= 22.g * 0.1%= 0.2g
glucose and 2g Ketones.

So, total for bodybuilder 1:

Total Glucose: 387.2g glucose
Total Ketones: 65g Ketones

Bodybuilder 2 produces the following by-products:

30% carbs/ 2000Kcal= 600/4= 150g glucose
30% protein/ 2000 Kcal = 600/4 = 150g protein * 0.58%= 87g
glucose and 67g ketones
40% Fat/ 2000Kcal = 800/9Kcal/g= 88.9g Fat = 8.9g glucose
and 80g ketones.

Total glucose: 245.9g glucose
Total Ketones: 147g Ketones


NOW, LETS COMPARE

HIGHER CARB:

Total glucose: 387.2g glucose
Total Ketones: 65g Ketones

HIGHER FAT:

Total glucose: 245.9g lucose
Total Ketones: 147g Ketones

WHAT DOES DNP ULTIMATELY DO? Render the conversion of
glucose to ATP into HEAT PRODUCTION.

So, bodybuilder 1: Carbs= Heat
Ketones= 65g*7Kcal/g= 455Kcal

And, Bodybuilder 2: Carbs= Heat
Ketones= 147g*7Kcal/g= 1017.5Kcal

(Ketones btw=oxidized fatty acids that yield 7Kcal/gram)

NOW, can you see the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!

Bodybuilder1 WILL CREATE an EXTRA 562.5Kcal
deficit just by macro-nutrient manipulation.
Thats approx. 124% more calories dissipated than
bodybuilder 2. That means MORE ADIPOSE TISSUE
BURNT FOR FUEL.

Therefore, following a high-carb diet while on DNP will increase
adipose tissue burning through caloric dissipation."


So now I am kinda confused as to what diet to follow?
Seems like higher protien would spare more muscle, but what is written above makes sense as well.

When I said 60/30/10 I mean protein, cabs, fat, not carbs, protein, fat. DNP is muscle sparing but as long as you need to eat a minimum amount of calories you may as well try and get most of them from protein, it's the one thing DNP doesn't really use for fuel. The more carbs you eat the hotter you will get, but that doesn't mean avoid them either, and there is no reason to carb deplete before a DNP cycle, DNP will do that for you in the first day or two.
Make sure you only use 200mg the first four days to see how you handle it and then you can go up to 400mg from there for as long as you can handle that.
Regards,
-H-

 

[panam]

On the site: http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnpforside

it says "This is what Im proposing to be the optimal DNP diet (for a high dose short cycle(s) and the end of a low dose extended cycle only):

50% carbs, 35% protein, 15% fat. Its not a misprint; carbs are essential for DNP to work properly. Keep in mind that its only the percentage that changes and not the total calories. From this point it will get a bit complicated, but read over it a few times and you will get the gist of it. Ill also try to keep it as simple as possible."

and

"Here's the proof as to WHY having a HIGH CARB intake while on DNP(if Kcal's are kept the same) is BETTER."

http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnp9.htm


"Ok, Lets Use Bodybuilder 1 and Bodybuilder 2.

Bodybuilder 1 eats 2000Kcal/day composed of 60% carbs,
30% protein, 10% fat

Bodybuilder 2 eats 2000Kcal/day composed of 40% fat/30%
protein/ 30% carbs (Basically a zone-type diet)

Now:

Carbs convert to glucose with 100% efficiency
Protein converts to glucose with 58% efficiency and the
rest is ketones.
Fat converts to glucose at 10% and the rest are ketones.

Ketones btw=Fats

DNP, btw BURNS DIETARY FAT BEFORE STORED FAT.
REMEMBER that fact!!!!!

So,

Bodybuilder 1 produces the following by-products:

60% carbs / 2000Kcal= 1200Kcal/4Kcal/g=300g glucose(carbs)
30% protein/2000Kcal= 600Kcal/4Kcal/g=150g protein,
*0.58%= 87g glucose and 63g ketones.
10% Fat/ 2000Kcal= 200Kcal/9Kcal/g= 22.g * 0.1%= 0.2g
glucose and 2g Ketones.

So, total for bodybuilder 1:

Total Glucose: 387.2g glucose
Total Ketones: 65g Ketones

Bodybuilder 2 produces the following by-products:

30% carbs/ 2000Kcal= 600/4= 150g glucose
30% protein/ 2000 Kcal = 600/4 = 150g protein * 0.58%= 87g
glucose and 67g ketones
40% Fat/ 2000Kcal = 800/9Kcal/g= 88.9g Fat = 8.9g glucose
and 80g ketones.

Total glucose: 245.9g glucose
Total Ketones: 147g Ketones


NOW, LETS COMPARE

HIGHER CARB:

Total glucose: 387.2g glucose
Total Ketones: 65g Ketones

HIGHER FAT:

Total glucose: 245.9g lucose
Total Ketones: 147g Ketones

WHAT DOES DNP ULTIMATELY DO? Render the conversion of
glucose to ATP into HEAT PRODUCTION.

So, bodybuilder 1: Carbs= Heat
Ketones= 65g*7Kcal/g= 455Kcal

And, Bodybuilder 2: Carbs= Heat
Ketones= 147g*7Kcal/g= 1017.5Kcal

(Ketones btw=oxidized fatty acids that yield 7Kcal/gram)

NOW, can you see the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!

Bodybuilder1 WILL CREATE an EXTRA 562.5Kcal
deficit just by macro-nutrient manipulation.
Thats approx. 124% more calories dissipated than
bodybuilder 2. That means MORE ADIPOSE TISSUE
BURNT FOR FUEL.

Therefore, following a high-carb diet while on DNP will increase
adipose tissue burning through caloric dissipation."


So now I am kinda confused as to what diet to follow?
Seems like higher protien would spare more muscle, but what is written above makes sense as well.

Damn, good post RovinC,,, and very interesting facts!!!

Panam---