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My ridiculous cutting stack :)
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ANALOG
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You built this monsta real nice.. I usely start my last 4 weeks using a good ECA product ******** twice a day. Clen @ 80mcg/d first week,160 mcg /d second week . Third week I add T3 @ 25mcg/d till I reach 150mgs/d the 4th week.. Plus I run Clen thought out as well. Use Gh as much as you can afford "through out"
Then (diuretics program}.. You keep your Protein up at your end, you won't lose any muscle. I'm not giving any advice, you don't need it bro... I'm just giving big props.. Bad Ass brother.............AnalogMan
Undertow333
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Well one week in (almost) and I am starting to rethink my tren with t-3 combo! [
)] Just kidding, I will continue to take both and will actually be increasing my t-3 up to 100mcg if I feel I can do it without sacrificing muscle. The night sweats, hell the day sweats too, are pretty intense already. My libido is kicked into overdrive already and I am starting to feel tren affecting my temperment. Workouts have been good and just knowing the ammount of gear I'm on is giving me motivation to tear it up.
I am running a reduced calorie, carb cycling diet that has worked for me in the past. I split 2500 to 2700 calories into meals roughly 3 hours appart. The only carbs I am consuming come from veggies and my post workout shake. I will carb load every Sunday as it is the only day off that I know I will get every week. My fat sources come from meats, olive oil, flaxseed oil, nuts, and MCT's. I know MCT's are old school and not many people use them anymore but its a great way to add some healthy fats. My protein sources are chicken, lean red meat ( in-laws have a cattle farm
), tuna, talapia, salmon, and whey. Pretty much in that order as far as volume.
For supplements I am using whey, BCAA's, creatine, flax oil, MCT's, milk thistle, saw palmetto, and a joint formula. Right now, I am holding off on the clen and really hoping to avoid using much of it because it gives me ungodly cramps when it gets hot out.
My training varies alot since I travel so much. I have a membership to Anytime Fitness and that helps alot. When there isn't one close to us, I will go to whatever is around. Last year I did everything from crossfit
to hardcore strongman workouts. Nothing like flipping tires after a 14 hour work day.
Anyway, enough rambling. Here are my before pics. It's been a long winter layoff playing mister mom and I baked entirely to much!
)] Just kidding, I will continue to take both and will actually be increasing my t-3 up to 100mcg if I feel I can do it without sacrificing muscle. The night sweats, hell the day sweats too, are pretty intense already. My libido is kicked into overdrive already and I am starting to feel tren affecting my temperment. Workouts have been good and just knowing the ammount of gear I'm on is giving me motivation to tear it up.I am running a reduced calorie, carb cycling diet that has worked for me in the past. I split 2500 to 2700 calories into meals roughly 3 hours appart. The only carbs I am consuming come from veggies and my post workout shake. I will carb load every Sunday as it is the only day off that I know I will get every week. My fat sources come from meats, olive oil, flaxseed oil, nuts, and MCT's. I know MCT's are old school and not many people use them anymore but its a great way to add some healthy fats. My protein sources are chicken, lean red meat ( in-laws have a cattle farm
), tuna, talapia, salmon, and whey. Pretty much in that order as far as volume. For supplements I am using whey, BCAA's, creatine, flax oil, MCT's, milk thistle, saw palmetto, and a joint formula. Right now, I am holding off on the clen and really hoping to avoid using much of it because it gives me ungodly cramps when it gets hot out.
My training varies alot since I travel so much. I have a membership to Anytime Fitness and that helps alot. When there isn't one close to us, I will go to whatever is around. Last year I did everything from crossfit
to hardcore strongman workouts. Nothing like flipping tires after a 14 hour work day. Anyway, enough rambling. Here are my before pics. It's been a long winter layoff playing mister mom and I baked entirely to much!
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Undertow333
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By the way, my starting bodyweight was 256. Not sure what BF% is but it's too damn much....for now[)]
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Undertow333
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So yesterday out of curiousity I shot my mast prop suq q! It had an oddly minty feeling to it.[)] Just wondering if anybody else has taken drugs other that test this way. By the way, it hurt far less than shooting test prop that way.
)] Just wondering if anybody else has taken drugs other that test this way. By the way, it hurt far less than shooting test prop that way.
ANALOG
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That's interesting tow, what did you use 1/2 needle, what gauge,and were at, shoulder ? I'm running mast P, may try it.. You do 1 Ml ?.......AnalogMan
[Muscle Depot] test prop, tren, masteron, anavar, a-dex [3-14]
[MJR] hcg, caber, t-3, clen [3-14]
[HK] Rips [3-14]
So Monday I will be starting this monster of a cutting cycle! I justt finished up my homebrew on the anabolics and am rearing to go. I will be posting Labmax as soon as I get the kit. I havn't gotten my hgh from Hk yet but I will add that in when it arrives. So, on to dosages:
test p 50mg daily
tren a 75mg daily
mast p 100mg daily
Var 50mg daily
t-3 25mcg building to 100mcg daily
clen 60mcg building to 100mcg daily
caber .5mg 2 x per week
rips 6iu daily (when it arrives)
I have a-dex, and nolva on hand if i need it and will either pct with clomid/nolva or cruise. I havn't decided yet. I will try to get before pics and diet/ supplement info up tomorrow or Sunday. Stay tuned, this should hopefully be a good one and I havnt run a cycle like this since my last prep back when I thought I could actually compete. [
Love this cycle. Big money ! Only thing I might do is bump the var up a bit.
Undertow333
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I use slin pins for all my injections. 29 guage 1/2 inchers. I have smaller ones for my hgh so I used those for my sub q. I think they are 31g 5/16 but not sure, the wife bought the last box. I took 1 mL but hit 2 seperate spots. It doesn't hurt but it leaves little lumps for a bit. Might not be a great idea durring summer if you have your shirt off much.[
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Undertow333
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I used raws and my two buddies pitched in so money wise it was super cheap. I pretty much paid for the lab gear and they paid for all the gear and the process of course
. I thought about a higher dose of var but I made 50mg caps so its pretty much 50 or 100. I don't know how my liver would feel about 100mg of var a day.
ANALOG
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I use slin pins for all my injections. 29 guage 1/2 inchers. I have smaller ones for my hgh so I used those for my sub q. I think they are 31g 5/16 but not sure, the wife bought the last box. I took 1 mL but hit 2 seperate spots. It doesn't hurt but it leaves little lumps for a bit. Might not be a great idea durring summer if you have your shirt off much.[
Good Info: Tow.. I've never did aas's with a slin pin.. I do 6 shots a day with one.. 4 insulin, {I'm diabetic} 1 hgh / 1 hcg.. I have both the 1/2 and 5/16. Walgreens. I may try it .I use the 50cc=1/2 Ml 5/16 for insulin and the 100cc=1Ml 1/2 for my hgh / hcg. That/s what I figured, you probably split 50cc one shoulder/50cc the other. I'll give it a try.. I'll let you know how I work out... Thanks Brother Tow.....If you ever get time, look at my log, you'll see my gear..........AnalogMan
Undertow333
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No problem brother. I saw your log and it is a beautiful site! My gear is homemade and in big ole 100mL jugs so its not that impressive, but theres a lot of it.
I am currently mixing 50/50 test p-tren in one pin and 1 mL mast in the other. It takes a bit getting used to pinning prop in small muscles. I use shoulders, chest, bis, tris, two spots on my quads and even tried calves. I plan on picking up some 25 guage one inchers to mix in ass shots as well. Gotta have a lot of spots for two shots a day. That's another reason I tried the mast sub q.
Undertow333
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So, one week down but it was not a very good one. Something in my cycle is really not cooperating with me. My blood pressure, pulse, and heart rate have been out of control. My appetite has been shit and I just have not felt very well. I have not taken tren in ten years and the sides are hitting hard already. Insomnia, night sweats, pissed off very easily, and a hard time staying hydrated. I love it! [)] I will keep the tren but I am going to drop the t3 for now and see what happens. They are capsules and I wonder about dosing micrograms in caps. Seems like it would be easy to over dose them. I also am wondering about my var. Var has never killed my appetite before and I feel pretty bloated most of the time. It's odd because my forearms, arms and shoulders are all veining out even though I feel bloated. I am thinking maybe the var is d-bol after all. I am not sure at this point and the downside of running so many compounds is that it can be hard to decide what is effective and what isn't. 
On the positive side, my strength is increasing rapidly and my pumps are amazing. Libido is through the roof and I have wood throughout the day randomly. If you see some big ole road construction worker cruise by you on the back of a big machine and he is sporting wood, smile and wave cause its me![)][)]
Hopefully this coming week goes better and I will get some updated pics up next weekend. My bodyweight was 251 this morning.
)] I will keep the tren but I am going to drop the t3 for now and see what happens. They are capsules and I wonder about dosing micrograms in caps. Seems like it would be easy to over dose them. I also am wondering about my var. Var has never killed my appetite before and I feel pretty bloated most of the time. It's odd because my forearms, arms and shoulders are all veining out even though I feel bloated. I am thinking maybe the var is d-bol after all. I am not sure at this point and the downside of running so many compounds is that it can be hard to decide what is effective and what isn't. On the positive side, my strength is increasing rapidly and my pumps are amazing. Libido is through the roof and I have wood throughout the day randomly. If you see some big ole road construction worker cruise by you on the back of a big machine and he is sporting wood, smile and wave cause its me![)][)] Hopefully this coming week goes better and I will get some updated pics up next weekend. My bodyweight was 251 this morning.
Undertow333
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ANALOG
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Brother Tow , That's NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You the Man.....AnalogMan
Undertow333
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Thank you sir! Not too bad for my first brew in ten years. Now if I can just get my physique back to were it was ten years ago.
beezil
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Thank you sir! Not too bad for my first brew in ten years. Now if I can just get my physique back to were it was ten years ago.
physique will come!! just keep hittin it! don't forget to keep the nutrition in check and the cardio up with the tren. it kills cardio and raised my bp on my last run.
Undertow if u think the var may be dball u could maybe try dropping the dose just a little because from what i could tell dball doesnt cause much water retention til dosages go over 40mg /day. I have seen people get away with more but Thats the safe zone it seemed. Back when i was a member on stacksandweights and Theironplayground. A good friend did dball only as first cycle at 30 then 40 mg a day. He was already fairly lean to start but he got Ripped! From dball only. I was rather new to this back then and we felt it was a fluke. I mean he had no noticable water retention and put on good size.
Well as it turned out it wasnt a fluke. Through next couple yrs i saw many guys around my gym do dball only and as long as their bodyfat wasnt overly high they didn't hold much water when dosages were lower than50mg/day. Now i have seen dudes around do test only and some didnt hold much water but for most part always retained More water than dball only. Now dudes doing test n dball stack mostly saw water retention in significance. So in my experiences i witnessed dball only by guys fairly lean with low/moderste doses didnt have significant water retention. I dunno if i just seen several unusual cases or if its normal. Has anybody else ever done dball only And not have water retention. I wanted to share this and get thoughts and experiences.
Car-h
Well as it turned out it wasnt a fluke. Through next couple yrs i saw many guys around my gym do dball only and as long as their bodyfat wasnt overly high they didn't hold much water when dosages were lower than50mg/day. Now i have seen dudes around do test only and some didnt hold much water but for most part always retained More water than dball only. Now dudes doing test n dball stack mostly saw water retention in significance. So in my experiences i witnessed dball only by guys fairly lean with low/moderste doses didnt have significant water retention. I dunno if i just seen several unusual cases or if its normal. Has anybody else ever done dball only And not have water retention. I wanted to share this and get thoughts and experiences.
Car-h
Tren and cardio are two forces that do not like each other lol but if you can get them to meet in the middle its beautiful
Undertow333
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Tren and cardio are two forces that do not like each other lol but if you can get them to meet in the middle its beautiful
I was helping friends out with the wrestling end of their mma gym a bit this winter. I tried this weekend and it felt like I was breathing in shards of glass! Low intensity cardio seems to be ok but the high end stuff is pretty much over for me at this point with the tren kicking in.
Undertow333
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The reason I was thinking dbol is that my appetite tanked and my bp went apeshit. Then again, I have never ran var over 30mg before either so I'm not sure if that could be it. I have run a lot of dbol in the past and it never made me vein out like this ( even at my bf%). I guess that could be the mast. Who knows.
