My very first cycle, any friendly info would be appreciated

[testallday]

Hello guys,

I am currently thinking of undergoing my first cycle. I am currently 20 years old. Been lifting for approx 3 years now.

My stats are:
172 cm talls - ~75kg - ~12%bodyfat.
My lifts are:
180kg deadlift x 1 rep
120kg bench press x 3 reps
140kg squat x 5 reps

My diet is mostly clean. On a cut I would eat from 140-160grams of protein and up to 200grams of carbs. The only supplements I use are protein powder (if needed to fill up protein for the day) and preworkout. I lift 5 times a week (would go for 6 if I have rested well and ate a bit more food than usual).

For my first cycle I am thinking about:
1) Winstrol 50mg/daily
OR
2) Test E 250mg/week

As I am new to this and young I don't want to go for big dosages or mixing multiple steroids at once, I want to try a single thing at a time to see how my body reacts to it. If you got anything different in mind for a first cycle feel free to share. Also if anybody had done anything similar to this cycle feel free to share your info of what I should expect, how much strength and muscle mass should i expect etc.

 

[Kcalorie]

20 is pretty young to start man. I did a few ph cycles when I was about that age and it wrecked my HPTA so now I am a slave to the pin. If I had to do it over again I would have avoided starting. I have no viable sperm (which was nice when I was young, free BC lol) but now Ill have to pay a ton of $$ to a fertility doc or IVF clinic to have a kid.
I have to pay for AI and test monthly, same with blood tests.

My hair is falling out a lot faster than it should, at least when compared to my dad's hairloss timeline. I blame constant mid-range or higher test levels converting to DHT.

Testicles are permanently shrunk. HCG helps a little but damn does it aromatize for me, it becomes a hassle for the cosmetic effects. Maybe when I want a kid Ill try it again.

I struggle with fighting gyno, will have to spend several thousand to correct it. And even then its not guaranteed to not come back if I slip up.

My HDL is shit since I started trt. Its a constant struggle to try to elevate it. I may have to resort to statins soon which I do not want to with their side effect profile and affects on the body.

All this for some gains I didn't even end up keeping because I didn't have the hormonal support to maintain it afterwards.

I know I wouldn't have been convinced when I was that age to stop what I was doing. But if I knew what would happen then I wouldn't have started it. A part of me thinks this may sway you since you gave your real age and even said you don't want to risk shut down.

PS: No one can tell you what your results will be. Your diet, genetics, and training dictate that. Also, you need to do more research if youre asking these questions. Which tells me you need to stay away from steroids for a few more years at least.

 

[testallday]

PS: No one can tell you what your results will be. Your diet, genetics, and training dictate that. Also, you need to do more research if youre asking these questions. Which tells me you need to stay away from steroids for a few more years at least.

Yeah but more or less what kind of stuff should I be expecting, searching up online i get really vague answers and well with pictures... you are never sure they are only from given steroid or stacking etc. Thats why im asking to find out from personal experience.

I know I wouldn't have been convinced when I was that age to stop what I was doing. But if I knew what would happen then I wouldn't have started it. A part of me thinks this may sway you since you gave your real age and even said you don't want to risk shut down.

Do you really think a small cycle like 50mg/day of winny can fuck me up to an extent of being a slave to the pin?

 

[Kcalorie]

It can. Will it? Probably not. Will it cause lower test levels afterwards? Possibly. I feel the real risk is once you start most people continue to cycle and it gets heavier and heavier eventually leading to permanent damage. I don't think youll get much advice on this forum due to your age

 

[Dw725]

Listen to what kcal is telling you. You'll thank him later.