NEED ADVICE ON 1st CYCLE: SUST 250 & DECA

[adonnis4life]

This my first cycle that i am ready to start. I am currently: 24 yrs old; 5' 8"; 160lbs; 10-12% bf. i am basically looking to add about 10 to 15lbs of muscle and drop my bf to somewhere around 5-7%. so this is what i have decided to take because i am also trying to minimize all possible side effects (i.e. acne, hairloss most importantly).

Weeks 1 - 10: Decabol (BD) 300mg
Weeks 6 - 10: Sustanon 250mg
Nolvadex 10mg
Then, clomid PCT.

Any advice on what this cycle my do to me as far as muscle growth and i would appreciate any advice if necessary on how to modify this cycle before i start so i can achieve my desired results. I have done countless hours of research on anabolic steroids and i know i should be running the test a bit longer and also higher than the deca, but i am not trying to get huge and i am concerned with the side effects. Thanks!

 

[plmuscle]

If you have done countless hours of studying steroids then why would you run Sus250 for 4 weeks and run Deca at the beginning of your cycle with no test? I swear it must be some teenagers posting on this site. How long have you been working out? Do you think steroids will make you drop bodyfat? Losing weight has more to do with diet than steroids. I suggest you don't do any steroids until you have 2-3 years of natural training underneath your belt.

You've done countless research but it's a sticky right at the top of this forum talking about 1st cycles,lol. You state your concerned with side effects then maybe you need to do a little bit more research and find out how to minimize the side effects. No matter what you take their will be side effects but they can be minimized. Sorry for sounding so hard on ya, but steroids aren't a game and majority of people ask questions that can be answered by researching.

Reading is FUNDAMENTAL!

 

[killiob]

This my first cycle that i am ready to start. I am currently: 24 yrs old; 5' 8"; 160lbs; 10-12% bf. i am basically looking to add about 10 to 15lbs of muscle and drop my bf to somewhere around 5-7%. so this is what i have decided to take because i am also trying to minimize all possible side effects (i.e. acne, hairloss most importantly).

Weeks 1 - 10: Decabol (BD) 300mg
Weeks 6 - 10: Sustanon 250mg
Nolvadex 10mg
Then, clomid PCT.

Any advice on what this cycle my do to me as far as muscle growth and i would appreciate any advice if necessary on how to modify this cycle before i start so i can achieve my desired results. I have done countless hours of research on anabolic steroids and i know i should be running the test a bit longer and also higher than the deca, but i am not trying to get huge and i am concerned with the side effects. Thanks!

Not trying to be an asshole, but you need to research a little more, first of all you need to start the Sustanon 250 the same time you start the deca, then you need to run at least 500mg of Sust a week, really three times a week at 750mg is better, but 500 will do. The deca will be fine at 300mg a week. Then you need to stop the deca at least 1 week before your last shot of Sustanon maybe even two. Looks like your PCT is fine. You would be better off using Testosterone Enanthate on your first cycle, Sustanon for first cycle is usually not recommended because of the 4 different esters in them so its hard to keep your levels steady. Read a little more on this board you can find anything you need to know.

 

[micro]

This my first cycle that i am ready to start. I am currently: 24 yrs old; 5' 8"; 160lbs; 10-12% bf. i am basically looking to add about 10 to 15lbs of muscle and drop my bf to somewhere around 5-7%. so this is what i have decided to take because i am also trying to minimize all possible side effects (i.e. acne, hairloss most importantly).

Weeks 1 - 10: Decabol (BD) 300mg
Weeks 6 - 10: Sustanon 250mg
Nolvadex 10mg
Then, clomid PCT.

Any advice on what this cycle my do to me as far as muscle growth and i would appreciate any advice if necessary on how to modify this cycle before i start so i can achieve my desired results. I have done countless hours of research on anabolic steroids and i know i should be running the test a bit longer and also higher than the deca, but i am not trying to get huge and i am concerned with the side effects. Thanks!

I'm not going to tell you read this and read that. Its up to you and your going to do what you want anyway.

But for what you have listed, do this.

500mg Sus wk -------1 shot 2x awk
300mg Deca ------- Mix it with the sus.
Very simple cycle

Eat enough and you will gain your 10/15 lbs.

 

[Deacon]

to get the best results deca should be run 12 weeks -

run the sus at 500 per week and the deca at 300 per week

as stated above eat and train right and you will gain.

 

[Phreezer]

to get the best results deca should be run 12 weeks -

run the sus at 500 per week and the deca at 300 per week

as stated above eat and train right and you will gain.

What? dude, you don't need to run deca for 12 weeks to get good benefit from it... I've run A LOT of 8-10 week cycles with Deca and Test and I did very well...

IMO 12 weeks is too long for a first cycle...

Ok... One thing to remember kid... Deca takes longer to clear than Test.. so be sure to stop administering the Deca about 10-14 days before you stop the test...and 20mg of Nolvadex ED may not be necessary... I'd go with 10mg if you want to run it..... if you start to get puffy, itchy, painful nipples then up the dosage.. but I doubt you'll have any problems....

Otherwise.. I think your cycle looks okay.. that amount on the test is a little low..... you can run that and still get results... but you might consider adding another 125mg-250mg per week...say 375mg sust/300mg Deca Weeks 1-8 and then just 375mg Test weeks 9-10...

 

[ryan400]

Bro you need to run the sust at 500 a week (at least) and run it and the deca throughout the entire cycle.

 

[plmuscle]

He should run the Sus for 10 weeks and the Deca for 8 weeks.

 

[Phreezer]

Bro you need to run the sust at 500 a week (at least) and run it and the deca throughout the entire cycle.

Did you not read what I wrote... Why would he run Deca throughout the entire cycle when Deca has about twice the half life as Sustanon?... You're just asking for problems with your PCT by doing it this way... and sorry to contradict you...but while I typically recommend 500mg of test per week.. one can do quite nicely on 375mg....

 

[adonnis4life]

Did you not read what I wrote... Why would he run Deca throughout the entire cycle when Deca has about twice the half life as Sustanon?... You're just asking for problems with your PCT by doing it this way... and sorry to contradict you...but while I typically recommend 500mg of test per week.. one can do quite nicely on 375mg....

thanks for the advice phreezer. i just might up the test to 375mg.