Need advise

[virii22]

Hello everyone,
I have a few questions, here is what I am dealing with, Im 27 and have lupus (Im told its rare in males, dam Im lucky, not). The doc told me I have to gain weight to feel better, and he would rather it be muscle, not fat so I started lifting weights, just like he said and changed my diet. Had a personal trainer and that got me nowhere. I need to gain weight, and fast, before I started workout I weighted 145, 5 months later I weigh 120. So to make a long story short the doctor suggested anabolic steroids, but he whats me to research the fact of them before taking any. I know I dont want any more shots. What I am looking for is something short term ( I take enough pills) but quick results, but the results will stay long term, with out steroids. Maybe a little mass would be good for me. Ive tried the drinks and the bars with no luck. So the question is what to take to get a little bigger fast, and for short term. And how much to take, I sure the doctor will tell me, but would like your opinions, for me its hard to take advice from someone who has never tried something.

Thanks Virii

 

[eleven11]

Hello everyone,
I have a few questions, here is what I am dealing with, Im 27 and have lupus (Im told its rare in males, dam Im lucky, not). The doc told me I have to gain weight to feel better, and he would rather it be muscle, not fat so I started lifting weights, just like he said and changed my diet. Had a personal trainer and that got me nowhere. I need to gain weight, and fast, before I started workout I weighted 145, 5 months later I weigh 120. So to make a long story short the doctor suggested anabolic steroids, but he whats me to research the fact of them before taking any. I know I dont want any more shots. What I am looking for is something short term ( I take enough pills) but quick results, but the results will stay long term, with out steroids. Maybe a little mass would be good for me. Ive tried the drinks and the bars with no luck. So the question is what to take to get a little bigger fast, and for short term. And how much to take, I sure the doctor will tell me, but would like your opinions, for me its hard to take advice from someone who has never tried something.

Thanks Virii

Sorry to here about the news. If I wanted to put on weigh/size it'd be 750mg test wk 600mg deca wk 40-50 d-bol ed 4-5 wks. I have no I dea whhat your Doc will recommend.........11

 

[tonyatl]

just like he said and changed my diet. Had a personal trainer and that got me nowhere. I need to gain weight, and fast, before I started workout I weighted 145, 5 months later I weigh 120. So to make a long story short the doctor suggested anabolic steroids,
Thanks Virii

if u r trying to gain weight i certainly think that aas are ideal but on the other hand if u do not eat enough cals it will not help much - it might stabilize u....how many cals a day r u eating? u should eat so much that u puke ( like i did today : ) )

 

[virii22]

Thank you for the replys, eleven11 I have no clue what that stuff mean, are they pills or shots, I dont want shots or could I drink it? And are they safe to stop after Im guessing a couple of cycles? Thanks Virii

 

[virii22]

if u r trying to gain weight i certainly think that aas are ideal but on the other hand if u do not eat enough cals it will not help much - it might stabilize u....how many cals a day r u eating? u should eat so much that u puke ( like i did today : ) )

well i'm eating about 3,000 to 3,500 aday give or take, some of the shakes i tried i thought were going to be nasty, but it turns out that i like most of them. Thanks Virii

 

[virii22]

ok after looking around and realizing i know nothing about this stuff, what about DIANABOL and ANAVAR together? i seen where anavar will help keep gains better, that what i need, not to put it on and then loose it. And to be truthful i think i will only take it for one cycle. i just need something to help get me started. This will only be short term. The reason i picked these two is, that they are pills, not injections. I like the results of the deca, but not sure if it comes in pill form? This is tuff to find info when everyone is tring to sell this stuff online. Let me know what you think thanks virii

 

[tonyatl]

ok after looking around and realizing i know nothing about this stuff, what about DIANABOL and ANAVAR together? i seen where anavar will help keep gains better, that what i need, not to put it on and then loose it. And to be truthful i think i will only take it for one cycle. i just need something to help get me started. This will only be short term. The reason i picked these two is, that they are pills, not injections. I like the results of the deca, but not sure if it comes in pill form? This is tuff to find info when everyone is tring to sell this stuff online. Let me know what you think thanks virii

u will get quite a few opinions on this i am sure but why isn't your dr making specific prescriptions?? there are cream and patch based topical test medications used primarily for hrt which raise test levels quite nicely at low dosages (50-75mg ed) and this is what i would do.....i do like anavar for your situation as well provided that u take sufficient quantities....dbol has the reputation for putting on fast gains but a sizeable amount of those gains can dissipate post cycle...dbol has more liver risks but at quantities which your dr will prescribe it is probably not a huge risk all other factors being equal....

looks like u need to bump your calories another 1000-1500 per day but not knowing anything about your condition i do not know what the issues are in doing that....good luck.....

btw - i am not a dr nor do i play one on tv....

 

[madmuscleinvegas]

I totally sympathize with you bro. I lost my mother last year because of lupus, it is certainly not pleasant to have. When my mother passed away she was under 95lbs. and standing 5'6". A basic cycle of anadrol 50 and amadrol 100(which recently came out) are taken orally. 2-3 tabs a day. I know you hate needles but you could get away with 2 250 mg. shots of sustanon a week.

 

[virii22]

u will get quite a few opinions on this i am sure but why isn't your dr making specific prescriptions?? there are cream and patch based topical test medications used primarily for hrt which raise test levels quite nicely at low dosages (50-75mg ed) and this is what i would do.....i do like anavar for your situation as well provided that u take sufficient quantities....dbol has the reputation for putting on fast gains but a sizeable amount of those gains can dissipate post cycle...dbol has more liver risks but at quantities which your dr will prescribe it is probably not a huge risk all other factors being equal....

looks like u need to bump your calories another 1000-1500 per day but not knowing anything about your condition i do not know what the issues are in doing that....good luck.....

btw - i am not a dr nor do i play one on tv....

thank you, i'm lucky my doctor gives me choices, and talks to me not at me, the reason i'm here is you guys know what works, like he said i'm not a text book case. When i get all the opinions i will print this off and give it to him and let him make the choice. So do you think the two i suggeted work work well together? I mean keep my gains? Thanks again Virii

 

[virii22]

I totally sympathize with you bro. I lost my mother last year because of lupus, it is certainly not pleasant to have. When my mother passed away she was under 95lbs. and standing 5'6". A basic cycle of anadrol 50 and amadrol 100(which recently came out) are taken orally. 2-3 tabs a day. I know you hate needles but you could get away with 2 250 mg. shots of sustanon a week.

Im sorry to hear that, at least you know what i am going though.
and if changes are not made fast for me it could seal my fate as well. once again i'm sorry to hear that. Thanks Virii

 

[cinnabar8521]

Sorry to here about the news. If I wanted to put on weigh/size it'd be 750mg test wk 600mg deca wk 40-50 d-bol ed 4-5 wks. I have no I dea whhat your Doc will recommend.........11

Your kidding right? That cycle would be something I would take @210 lbs and few cycles under my belt, this guy is a 120 lbs and a first time user.

 

[tonyatl]

thank you, i'm lucky my doctor gives me choices, and talks to me not at me, the reason i'm here is you guys know what works, like he said i'm not a text book case. When i get all the opinions i will print this off and give it to him and let him make the choice. So do you think the two i suggeted work work well together? I mean keep my gains? Thanks again Virii

the opinions given here are subject to the same limitations as u impute to your dr....i.e. most guys can come up with a good cycle for body building purposes but may be somewhat limited in exceptional cases such as yours....

as for your recommendations they are not bad but i still feel u should try some test....if u get the topical androgel or something similar u can avoid pills and shots.....u can try that to see if it works but i would end up prescribing test e or sust along with your dbol and anavar....

the nice thing about test is that there are studies showing it will increase strength/muscle mass even if u do not work out...

good luck and i hope this is helpful.....

 

[virii22]

the opinions given here are subject to the same limitations as u impute to your dr....i.e. most guys can come up with a good cycle for body building purposes but may be somewhat limited in exceptional cases such as yours....

as for your recommendations they are not bad but i still feel u should try some test....if u get the topical androgel or something similar u can avoid pills and shots.....u can try that to see if it works but i would end up prescribing test e or sust along with your dbol and anavar....

the nice thing about test is that there are studies showing it will increase strength/muscle mass even if u do not work out...

good luck and i hope this is helpful.....

i didn't know there was a cream, any chance to avoid pills, i'm there. could you tell me more about this cream? Thanks Virii

 

[tonyatl]

i didn't know there was a cream, any chance to avoid pills, i'm there. could you tell me more about this cream? Thanks Virii

there are several topical test products used in hrt....there are those who would note that their efficacies are not as great as depots but i can tell u from good second hand experience that they will raise your test levels substantially ( 1200 is quite feasible ) with small daily application of 50-75mg....your dr should prescribe more and u really should increase calories as much as u can....basically till u puke...

if u start with this solution and it works u r set....if it does not work then u will need to use better drugs or add others....

 

[eleven11]

Your kidding right? That cycle would be something I would take @210 lbs and few cycles under my belt, this guy is a 120 lbs and a first time user.

Well if you read what I said. If I were wanting to put on weight. those would be my choise. He has a doctor so I'm sure that the doc will precribe whats best for him............11

 

[cinnabar8521]

Well if you read what I said. If I were wanting to put on weight. those would be my choise. He has a doctor so I'm sure that the doc will precribe whats best for him............11

Yeah I missed that, but I don't think his doctor is gonna be a whole lotta help either, unless he's a meso member.