Need help at cycle.(from Ukraine)

[Tommy]

Hello. At first sorry for my english,i'm from Ukraine.
I want that you have to explain me some thing's about steroid cycle. why i write at your forum, because in our country and in russia people do not have enough knowledge at plaining cycles.
I'm 23 years, have workout about 3 years with not break.(5 years with breaks).
1.83 m and 98 kg
i plain my first cycle like this:
W 1-8 oral-turinabol (50-80mg every day)
PCT:
Clomid: (or toremifene)
W1-2 (50mg every day) (toremifene W1-2 40mg and than W3-4 20mg)
W3-4 (25mg ED)
W5 12,5mg
Tribulus 1g ED (from 2-5 weeks)
Vitamin E 1000, zink.at the cycle also choleretic.
I think i don't need a HCG,it's right ?
how do you think it's normal cycle for first?
what you think about PCT?
Need i use after cycle hepatoprotectors?
P.S
thank you for your help!

 

[illuminatty]

I was always told an oral only cycle is a terrible idea. And for your first cycle, go with test e or c and see how your body reacts to hormones.

 

[Tommy]

Hello. At first sorry for my english,i'm from Ukraine.
I want that you have to explain me some thing's about steroid cycle. why i write at your forum, because in our country and in russia people do not have enough knowledge at plaining cycles.
I'm 23 years, have workout about 3 years with not break.(5 years with breaks).
1.83 m and 98 kg
i plain my first cycle like this:
W 1-8 oral-turinabol (50-80mg every day)
PCT:
Clomid: (or toremifene)
W1-2 (50mg every day) (toremifene W1-2 40mg and than W3-4 20mg)
W3-4 (25mg ED)
W5 12,5mg
Tribulus 1g ED (from 2-5 weeks)
Vitamin E 1000, zink.at the cycle also choleretic.
I think i don't need a HCG,it's right ?
how do you think it's normal cycle for first?
what you think about PCT?
Need i use after cycle hepatoprotectors?
P.S
thank you for your help!

This cycle recomend me people who think that they versed in AAS (which is at begining)
If it will be like that :
1-12 week EQ (600mg at week)
1-12 week test E (250mg at week)
13-15 week EQ acetate(500mg at week) or (turinabol)
Need i to use HCG and in which doses ?
PCT:
Clomid 1-2 week(100mg) 3-4(50mg) 5(25mg)
tribulus vitamins zink.
What you think about it?

 

[Maven3]

Its your first cycle. No need to be overly complicated.

Week 1-12 Test E 500mg per week. Split into 2 doses ie Monday and Thursday.

2 weeks after last injection commence PCT.

Trust me you will get huge and strong on this cycle, it is all you need. As you cycle more you can look at adding other compounds and orals. They are not needed for your first cycle.

Also what is your current BF%

I also think you are a bit young to start AAS, you still have very high natural test and can continue to make good natural gains for at least a couple more years.

 

[Tommy]

Its your first cycle. No need to be overly complicated.

Week 1-12 Test E 500mg per week. Split into 2 doses ie Monday and Thursday.

2 weeks after last injection commence PCT.

Trust me you will get huge and strong on this cycle, it is all you need. As you cycle more you can look at adding other compounds and orals. They are not needed for your first cycle.

Also what is your current BF%

I also think you are a bit young to start AAS, you still have very high natural test and can continue to make good natural gains for at least a couple more years.

BF% is 15.
I must use HCG at this cycle?(i think yes) And what about anastrozole?
and what about PCT ? (clomid at 100mg2 weeks, 1week 75mg,1week 50mg,1week 25mg, what you think about it?)

 

[illuminatty]

No point in trying to talk him out of it. His mind is set and he's going to go for it.

I'll share my first planned cycle tommy.

Week 1-12 test e 350-400mg/week
500 iu hcg/week 2- until pct starts
.25mg of Adex eod and tweak from there

Pct starts 2 weeks after my last pin of test e

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 25/25/25/25

Get blood work done before durinf and after to find your base, then making sure you recovered

 

[Maven3]

Looks like a good first cycle. I'd go for 500mg per week personally, but that's just because I had great results at that level, for my first cycle.

Yes do hcg 500iu twice weekly. Start in week 2 or 3 and continue to pct.

Lastly I recommend you do a natural cut prior to your aas bulk cycle. This will prime your body for better gains, you will look better on cycle, and have a much easier time cutting after your bulk.