Need help tweaking the cycle

hakt0ne

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While I'm pretty sure I've got the actual AAS cycle correct I'm still a bit confused as to PCT. I'm trying to stay away from Clomid as I've heard the nightmare stories about mood swings etc but I'm not against using it if need be. I like HCG in-cycle solution and I've implemented that but I'd like you vets to check it out and offer any suggestions you can. I'm definitely anal so I'm not starting the cycle till I'm sure I'm comfortable and with it and understand exactly what I'm doing and why so reasons behind your thoughts would defintely be helpful. Thanks!

Week 1-2
250mg Test Enanthate M & Th
10mg Nolva ED

Week 3
Add 500iu HCG on Saturdays & Sundays

Week 4
Add 50mg Oral Winstrol ED

Week 10
Complete last shot of Enanthate
Complete last of Oral Winstrol
Complete last shot of HCG

Week 11
40mg Nolva Day 1
20mg Rest of week

Week 12
10mg Nolva Daily


Week 15
3 weeks out from last shot levels of Enanthae fall below suppression levels. Recovery complete.

Cycle begins 6/28 and runs to 9/26 including PCT.
 
The quote below your name is interesting. Please allow me to extrapolate upon it.

"Half the people you know are below average." - Steven Wright

"Half the people you know are below average and half the people you know are above average. If you have to think about which group you're in... you're in the bottom group." - MaxRep


Back to your questions.
I've always felt the "mood" issue with Clomid to be overblown. Neither I nor anyone I personally know has ever felt that to be a major issue. I do personally know a few people who report mild mood swings but it's not enough to be of any concern.

Regarding your cycle:
No front load?

I don't see any injectible AAS for weeks 3-10?

250mg's of Test is every shot or every week?

Your pct shouldn't start for 2 weeks after your last Test shot. Your nolvadex dosage is too low. Double it and run if for a minimum of 3 weeks.

Good luck,
MaxRep
 
Max,
Thanks for replying. If you look I'll be running 500mg a week. Injections on M & Th. Sorry if that was confusing. Week 3 & 4 will also have 500mg of Enanthate in addition to the HCG and Winny. I'll just be ADDING the HCG and Winny during week 3 & 4.
Thanks for the Nolva info. That's where I needed the most help. I've read alot on both Clomid and Nolva but dosing seems to be all over the map according to what works for bros. During the 2 weeks between my final injection and PCT should I stay at 10mg of Nolva a day before jumping to 80mg during the 2nd week? Thanks again for responding.
 
Also to reply to your frontload question Max, I will be frontloading. I posted this Meso as well as another site and you're the 2nd person to recommend it. I'm going to cut out the 9th and 10th weeks and frontload. 8th week I'll be done with the Enanth and I'll keep the Winny to Week 10.
 
hakt0ne said:
Also to reply to your frontload question Max, I will be frontloading. I posted this Meso as well as another site and you're the 2nd person to recommend it. I'm going to cut out the 9th and 10th weeks and frontload. 8th week I'll be done with the Enanth and I'll keep the Winny to Week 10.


most of what Max said is right and I agree with - but I do not agree with frontloading if you need to skip the last two weeks of the cycle for lack of drugs - you need those last two weeks bro - rather skip the front load and run two weeks longer.
 
Deacon said:
most of what Max said is right and I agree with - but I do not agree with frontloading if you need to skip the last two weeks of the cycle for lack of drugs - you need those last two weeks bro - rather skip the front load and run two weeks longer.

Absolutely right. You need the cycle to last a certain minimum period of time. I did not mean that by front loading you could stop the cycle 2 weeks earlier. You need enough gear to do the front load and run your cycle the full 10 weeks. Which IMO, is the shortest period of time for a cycle like this to be fully effective.

Yes, after your last Test shot, continue with low dose nolva. Once the amount of Test circulating has come down enough, which is about 2 weeks, then start your pct.

Good luck,
MaxRep
 
Take HCG 500iu every 3-4 days starting the first week of the cycle.

Is this your first cycle?
 
Yes this'll be my first. I held off taking the HCG because I didn't think the ester would begin to kick in enough to start supression until about the 3rd week so anything earlier would be a waste. Am I wrong there?

Max, Thanks for clearing up the confusion on the frontload. I'll definitely frontload AND run the cycle for 10 weeks. The PCT was where I was the most unsure so I'm glad I at least got that down.
 

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