Need help with TB-500, BPC-157 and GHK-CU stack

[Hsiwuoyemanyna]

I've had no problems blending those peptides.

Are you on the pen/cartridge train yet? If not, check out this thread. It's like a cheat code for convenience.

I second the pen. Once I started using mine there was no going back. Easier, quicker, I can travel with my peps now. All around game changer.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Only difference is I would only put half my bpc157 in the blended vial because I like twice daily on the bpc157.

I still do this (BPC-157 twice a day dosing) but this may be bro-science.

I do GH twice a day so it's convenient for me to put both in the same cartridge.

Could probably throw TB500 in there too even though conventional dosing of TB is MWF.

 

[Ateam2023]

i draw my hgh , bpc, tb all in one slin pin eazy peezy never had a problem

 

[AlexDavis43]

i draw my hgh , bpc, tb all in one slin pin eazy peezy never had a problem

Once you get on the pen train you'll never look back.

You do that once a week into cartridges then easy pinning all week.

 

[Ateam2023]

Once you get on the pen train you'll never look back.

You do that once a week into cartridges then easy pinning all week.

thanks i'll look into that i've heard its super easy

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

i draw my hgh , bpc, tb all in one slin pin eazy peezy never had a problem

whats the max volume? do you go more " concentrated" when reconstituting? so between all 3 components its still around 2IU?

 

[Ateam2023]

i draw 5 ius of growth then 1 iu of bpc 1 iu of tb for a total of 7 ius or 70 on a 100 ml slin pin, ( 1.5 mg of both tb&bpc)

 

[Ateam2023]

whats the max volume? do you go more " concentrated" when reconstituting? so between all 3 components its still around 2IU?

i actually made a mistake i take 1.5 ius per tb&bpc to get the 1.5 mg of each , i stand corrected

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

So 7IU in 1 shot? I guess i need to man up - haven't done more than 4 IU at once , and even that was moderately unpleasant. Any reasons why not to reconstitute with les water, lets says 1/2 the water you would normally do.. that would deliver same amount of compound with just 3.5IU. I'm somewhat new at this, so forgive the ignorance.

 

[Ateam2023]

So 7IU in 1 shot? I guess i need to man up - haven't done more than 4 IU at once , and even that was moderately unpleasant. Any reasons why not to reconstitute with les water, lets says 1/2 the water you would normally do.. that would deliver same amount of compound with just 3.5IU. I'm somewhat new at this, so forgive the ignorance.

i've been using this protocol for a minute and i've never had any real discomfort from the volume of injections , i do them all around side of abdominal rotating in a clocklike manner each day, i use a 5/16" 30 g 1 ml slin pin by eazytouch and its a pain free experience

 

[Ateam2023]

i've been using this protocol for a minute and i've never had any real discomfort from the volume of injections , i do them all around side of abdominal rotating in a clocklike manner each day, i use a 5/16" 30 g 1 ml slin pin by eazytouch and its a pain free experience

you have a good point though on less water more concentrated

 

[Alpha1Wolf]

you have a good point though on less water more concentrated

I'm waiting for someone more knowledgable than me on this subject to reply with " you shouldn't do that because..." with extremely logical reasoning, that never had occurred to me. LOL

 

[AlexDavis43]

you have a good point though on less water more concentrated

I'm waiting for someone more knowledgable than me on this subject to reply with " you shouldn't do that because..." with extremely logical reasoning, that never had occurred to me. LOL

I use "more water less concentrated" so the little leftover volume in the vial that you can't get out has less gear.

It's a small difference but whatevs.

 

[jdubzzz44]

I use "more water less concentrated" so the little leftover volume in the vial that you can't get out has less gear.

It's a small difference but whatevs.

I do the same

 

[kilgore1313]

I still do this (BPC-157 twice a day dosing) but this may be bro-science.

I do GH twice a day so it's convenient for me to put both in the same cartridge.

Could probably throw TB500 in there too even though conventional dosing of TB is MWF.

The half-life of BPC is established at 4-6 hours so it makes sense to dose 2x per day.

TB-500 (TB4) is pretty short lived too.

Not sure about ghk-cu

 

[AlexDavis43]

TB-500 (TB4) is pretty short lived too.

Interesting. Maybe the bro-science theory behind MWF dosing is to slam a high dose to exceed a certain threshold level, then let it clear out before hitting it again. Maybe.

 

[kilgore1313]

Interesting. Maybe the bro-science theory behind MWF dosing is to slam a high dose to exceed a certain threshold level, then let it clear out before hitting it again. Maybe.

I can’t find anything that shows the 36 hour half life claims for either version of TB-500.

There’s a horse doping study that shows the 17-23 fragment is undetectable after 11 or so hours. I’m not an expert in equine biology so I’m not sure how it translates to humans.

Doping control analysis of TB-500, a synthetic version of an active region of thymosin β₄, in equine urine and plasma by liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry - PubMed

A veterinary preparation known as TB-500 and containing a synthetic version of the naturally occurring peptide LKKTETQ has emerged. The peptide segment (17)LKKTETQ(23) is the active site within the protein thymosin β(4) responsible for actin binding, cell migration and wound healing. The key...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

TB4 has been estimated at 2-4 hours

Identification of Thymosin β4 as an effector of Hand1-mediated vascular development - Nature Communications

The Hand1 transcription factor plays a central role in cardiovascular development. Here the authors demonstrate that Hand1 regulates thymosin β4 and that the delivery of synthetic thymosin β4 can rescue some of the vascular defects in Hand1 null mouse embryos.

www.nature.com

I think the 36hr half life is definitely broscience and maybe related back to horse racing. It’s easier to dose horses less often.

 

[deadbeef]

The half life of TB4 is on the order of a couple hours.