NeoAnabolics
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Thank you for the review sir! You sure that’s Test Cyp or water in there? Haha joking! Just super clear!
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glpfun
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Oh cause axle told us his test is yellow because that just happens when you brew lol
Methyl Mike
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So, we have MCT as a carrier, steroid, and both benzyl alcohol as well as benzyl benzoate. MCT oil is fucking sterile naturally, bacteria can not grow in MCT oil ever. Can anyone offer a good reason why it's necessary to add ba/bb???
Jsilk757
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Here’s a quick 5 min google search with verified sources for all statements below. Technology is such a great tool when you’re not afraid to use it. Give it a go next time you have a question rolling around upstairs
MCT oil may be low in bacteria and not support microbial growth easily, but that does not make it inherently sterile or appropriate alone for injectable pharmaceutical products.
BA is widely used in injectable formulations to inhibit bacterial and fungal growth and help ensure the product remains sterile over time. This is especially important in multi-dose vials or any product that could be exposed during handling.
Sterility in pharmaceuticals means manufactured and certified free of viable microorganisms, not just “bacteria can’t grow.” A sterile injectable product requires validated sterilization and preservation processes.
BA helps dissolve steroid esters that may have limited solubility in plain oil. Without a co-solvent, the steroid could precipitate or form crystals over time — reducing potency and causing inconsistent dosing
BA can slightly lower the viscosity of the carrier so the solution draws and injects more smoothly
BB is not ONLY a preservative — its primary purpose is to increase solubility of steroid esters in oil and keep them dissolved long-term. (Many steroids dissolve poorly in plain oil; sesame, MCT, etc. In a standard formulation mix, BB helps steroids stay dissolved at higher concentrations that plain oil alone cannot maintain.
BB prevents crystallization or precipitation during storage and at the injection site after administration. Without it, active drug can separate out, leading to uneven dosing and possibly more irritation.
BB also affects how the drug is released from the oil depot formed in muscle tissue — helping maintain a consistent release profile.
Methyl Mike
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Spare me your AI nonsense, I specifically asked why are brewers adding alcohol to MCT? Can someone anyone provide actual data on MCT without alcohols added this showing microbial contamination? Because my intuition is telling me brewers are robotically adding it and it's really unnecessary. If ba is being used to create super high concentration steroids I guess I understand at least that. But then I have to wonder can't brewers just make lower potency gear with MCT only and have it work?
Gonz0
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Idk bro why use soap when you can just rub patchouli oil all over yourself ? I guess single use amps will sometimes just use a carrier oil and no ba/bb but most of the time I’ve seen that it’s just EO and not mct.
Jsilk757
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The first paragraph is 1000% facts no Ai. Contradicts your entire statement
“MCT oil is fucking sterile naturally, bacteria can not grow in MCT oil ever”
MCT oil MAY BE LOW in bacteria and not SUPPORT microbial growth easily, but that does not make it inherently STERILE.
Every time you plunge your needle into a multi dose vial your risk contamination/bacteria being introduced
Infernalmango
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Literally every brewer uses bb/ba. Do you brew your own stuff?
crispybacon!
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So you trust your intuition, but not someone taking the time to provide you with verifiable facts?
Not trying to be an asshole, but can you just chill with sharing your opinions as fact. In another thread you’ve suggested it’s perfectly fine to reconstitute GH with boiled distilled water. Someone is going to take your words a fact and perpetuate this misinformation.
Why the C8 and C10 fatty acids in MCT show some antimicrobial/bacteriostatic activity at high relative innoculum concentrations, it would be irresponsible IMO for a vendor not to add BA as bacteriostat in their finished products. That is what insurance and margin of safety are designed for.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Removing approx. 1% (w/v) BA from finished oil products would be a significant step backwards in quality/safety standards on the UG.
The Effect of Medium-Chain Triglycerides Oil on Candida albicans and Streptococcus mutans in Planktonic and Mucosal Models - PubMed
Despite MCT oil's potential antimicrobial benefits for gastrointestinal health, its effects on disrupting cariogenic pathogens on oral mucosal surfaces remain underexplored. This study evaluated the impact of MCT oil on the adhesion and invasion of <i>Candida albicans</i> and <i>Streptoccocus...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Removing approx. 1% (w/v) BA from finished oil products would be a significant step backwards in quality/safety standards on the UG.
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Long story short...
BB is co-solvent (increases API solubility in carrier oil) and viscosity modifier.
BA (at concentrations used) is a bacteriostatic agent for multi-dose vials. Keep any shit you contaminate the vial with from growing. Assuming oil in vial was properly 0.2 um filtered to begin with and hence sterile.
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glpfun
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We really debating this in 2025
Im so behind on all this.
I just checked my test inventory, out of 7 to 9 vendors, all but 1 (including Axle) are clear. I've been using the beer colored test with good results. Maybe Im injecting piss, who knows.
glpfun
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I’m pretty sure it’s from raw oxidization or high heat while brewing, it’s just weird to pass it off as normal when they have batches that aren’t like that
For as long as you've been here you seem to just spout off a good deal of nonsense.
Photon
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You need to circle the MCT on the label.
Once you circle it, it immediately turns clear!
Methyl Mike
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MCT is sterile, does not need filtering. MCT is thin as fuck you mean to tell me BB is needed to make it thinner?
So I think I'm right. Brewers are adding it "just because." Something to think about.
crispybacon!
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You did use the word necessary so I spot you that.
So depending on target API concentration and API desired one could argue only BA would be necessary for a suitable multi-dose product for injection with proper bacteriostat added.
And yes, you have to 0.2 um filter the finished oil to ensure sterility.
Photon
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Depends on what you're brewing
EQ700?
Yea adding BB will be nice.
Aside from BU and TE, most compounds wont hold at 250mg/ml without BB.
Nobody wants to inject 2.5ml of 100mg/ml.
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