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[Activ1st]

Hello all. I'm new to this been using resources from here to help out my natty abilities but after 9 years of lifting, about 5 with actual structure and training program and diet, I feel its time to step into the world of AAS.
27 year old male, 5 foot 7 inches 220 lbs 14-16 % body fat.
Ive decided to try my first cycle to push through my plateau and make additional gains.
I already have as follows: Dbol 2500mg worth and winny 2500mg worth a bunch of nolva and clomid, Test enth 10ml 250mg/ml 5x viles. Ive heard that 8 week cycles are more effective and helps you avoid getting shut down so im pretty sure im going to start as follows:

week 1-8
500mg per week via pin 2x

week 4-8
30mg dianabol per day

followed by
50mg clomid and 20mg nolva per day 3-4 weeks starting first 1 week after last pin.
also taking milk thistle week 4-8 and during pct since my pct is oral.

Any suggestions would be nice ive done alot of research i know what to be aware of but its the part of picking which AAS and stacks to use that i find difficult so any advice would be appreciated.

 

[Dizzy]

Bump

 

[Smokey McPot]

Welcome brother. IMO I would kickstart your cycle with the Dbol. I would run it for the first 5 or 6 weeks. Also I would run the cycle longer, preferably 12 weeks. I don't see an AI and I would do more research on liver protection and your PCT

 

[Savagesteve]

I would also recommend 12 weeks and I ran dbol @ 50mg and the pumps were insane. Like smokey said keep adex on hand as dbol for me at least aromatases like a mofo for me. I also ran milk thistle and other supplements for liver protection running orals.

 

[Activ1st]

Great advice guys I completely forgot about AI Glad I made this post before starting my cycle. Ill do more research on AI's. Smokey when you say kick start my cycle should I start with the dbol only for 6 weeks and then start the test or start them both at the same time and discontinue the dbol 6 weeks in?

 

[Dizzy]

Great advice guys I completely forgot about AI Glad I made this post before starting my cycle. Ill do more research on AI's. Smokey when you say kick start my cycle should I start with the dbol only for 6 weeks and then start the test or start them both at the same time and discontinue the dbol 6 weeks in?

I believe he ment start with dbol when you start the test. From what I understand the oral dbol with give you a little boost before your workouts. You'll feel it right away. My first cycle was test e and I didn't feel anything until 4 weeks in. If you stat your cycle with dbol you'll feel it right away. But it's terrible for your liver. So you don't want to take it through your entire cycle. But someone more experienced can tell you if I'm wrong about any of this.

 

[Activ1st]

Okay it sounds about right, I just wanted to clarify. Also got my ADEX should be here in about 2 weeks going to start it at .5mg per 2 days and see what happens.

 

[Savagesteve]

Great advice guys I completely forgot about AI Glad I made this post before starting my cycle. Ill do more research on AI's. Smokey when you say kick start my cycle should I start with the dbol only for 6 weeks and then start the test or start them both at the same time and discontinue the dbol 6 weeks in?

Yes you're going to run the dbol and test from the beginning and discontinue the dbol after week 6.

 

[Juced]

tips:
run it 12 to 14 weeks. less is a waste and for pretty much same shutdown IMO
run an AI during cycle
have PCT ready ( i rec clomid and tamox combo)

 

[Activ1st]

Alright then I know how to run it then I'll do
Week 1-12 test enth 500mg per week
Week 1-12 arimidex depends on sides
Week 1-6 dbol 30/30/30/50/50/50
Followed by clomid and nolva week 13-16 and milk thistle throughout all oral doses

Go hard in gym and keep macros right.

I'll also do some before and after pics and stats and also during cycle. So people can see how this cycle works out.
I am very excited and hoping for some gains in mass and hopefully the same body fat or less if possible. I only plan to gain 10 lbs top during this entire cycle that way I can minimize fat gains my calorie intake will start slightly over maintenance and will adjust accordingly to what my body says. Obviously I may have to go way above maint. On calories if I feel like my body's trying to mass more. But starting slightly above maint.

 

[Dizzy]

Alright then I know how to run it then I'll do
Week 1-12 test enth 500mg per week
Week 1-12 arimidex depends on sides
Week 1-6 dbol 30/30/30/50/50/50
Followed by clomid and nolva week 13-16 and milk thistle throughout all oral doses

Go hard in gym and keep macros right.

I'll also do some before and after pics and stats and also during cycle. So people can see how this cycle works out.
I am very excited and hoping for some gains in mass and hopefully the same body fat or less if possible. I only plan to gain 10 lbs top during this entire cycle that way I can minimize fat gains my calorie intake will start slightly over maintenance and will adjust accordingly to what my body says. Obviously I may have to go way above maint. On calories if I feel like my body's trying to mass more. But starting slightly above maint.

You know I've been reading about test e because that's what I used on my cycle and the half life is 10.5 days. So you might want to wait 3 weeks after your last pin before you start your pct. That's how I understand it. But im a newbie as well. So maybe someone more experienced can tell me if I'm wrong.

 

[Dizzy]

Alright then I know how to run it then I'll do
Week 1-12 test enth 500mg per week
Week 1-12 arimidex depends on sides
Week 1-6 dbol 30/30/30/50/50/50
Followed by clomid and nolva week 13-16 and milk thistle throughout all oral doses

Go hard in gym and keep macros right.

I'll also do some before and after pics and stats and also during cycle. So people can see how this cycle works out.
I am very excited and hoping for some gains in mass and hopefully the same body fat or less if possible. I only plan to gain 10 lbs top during this entire cycle that way I can minimize fat gains my calorie intake will start slightly over maintenance and will adjust accordingly to what my body says. Obviously I may have to go way above maint. On calories if I feel like my body's trying to mass more. But starting slightly above maint.

Again you should get your blood work done before you do anything so you know what your base line is

 

[Activ1st]

Okay I researched the ester and it's half life is 6-10 days on test e, so will start pct 20 days after last pin. Thanks everyone for the advice