New member - Need help with Dragon Ordnance order

[Atripp1414]

Word of advice. When dealing with problem orders, be calm, respectful and patient at all times and it will workout.

You place an order, a mistake is made on the sources side, you politely inform them of the mistake and wait for a resolution, giving them plenty of time because things operate slow with most sources.

The problem is new people come at this like they were on ebay or amazon dealing with merchants that have a 24/7 chat line.

Doesn't work like that with sources based in China. 1 day china time is 5 days our time, it's a time warp problem.

So obviously you didn’t read the posts above you are just commenting based on the few bozos ahead of you. I was polite and only lost my cool when DO started blaming everyone and everything but himself for the problem, lied about how many times I reached out to them, lied about how much my order was for, lied about solving the problem.

This isn’t my first rodeo. I know the game bud.

Then a bunch of dozers come on and talk shit and I dish out exactly what they gave and they lose their mind and get all worked up. How dare a new guy talk back to a member who has 100 points and 500 posts!!!!!! I must be an absolute fool!!

 

[Atripp1414]

Also so everyone is aware. @DragonOrdnance I created a proton email JUST for you

I sent you an email laying out how I received a package today that was a duplicate of my first order back at the beginning of September and NOT the order I made a few weeks ago that all this drama is concerning. I took pictures and laid it all out for you VIA PROTON!!!!!

So if you can get back to me that would be Amazing brother bear!!

 

[Killze022]

Also so everyone is aware. @DragonOrdnance I created a proton email JUST for you

I sent you an email laying out how I received a package today that was a duplicate of my first order back at the beginning of September and NOT the order I made a few weeks ago that all this drama is concerning. I took pictures and laid it all out for you VIA PROTON!!!!!

So if you can get back to me that would be Amazing brother bear!!

No, you didn't make the proton just for him. You made it so now you can communicate properly with any source without putting both them and yourself at risk.

 

[T-roy]

Word of advice. When dealing with problem orders, be calm, respectful and patient at all times and it will workout.

You place an order, a mistake is made on the sources side, you politely inform them of the mistake and wait for a resolution, giving them plenty of time because things operate slow with most sources.

The problem is new people come at this like they were on ebay or amazon dealing with merchants that have a 24/7 chat line.

Doesn't work like that with sources based in China. 1 day china time is 5 days our time, it's a time warp problem.

Now let’s not get carried away here.This isn’t Sunday school with a Nun ready to crack someone over the head with a wooden stick. We have a standard that needs to be upheld here and the sources will be held accountable for there mistakes.I don’t give a fuck were the source is located it doesn’t take 5 days to communicate with a computer.

 

[T-roy]

First off I’m not a kid, second off, I’ve already ordered from him before I even had signed up for this website, like this entire post is just pure garbage. I don’t even know what to say. I don’t need your forum to find a source. I used the forum to hold a source accountable who is active here. BIG difference little guy.

Now go back and look at your posts. You sound like a two year old that dropped your pacifier. You couldn’t take one once of constructive criticism without having confrontation. You’re Inability and or your height of laziness has created much of your own problems..ProtonMail for example you should know better. It’s the little things that show your Immaturity, big guy!

 

[D Zero]

So obviously you didn’t read the posts above you are just commenting based on the few bozos ahead of you. I was polite and only lost my cool when DO started blaming everyone and everything but himself for the problem, lied about how many times I reached out to them, lied about how much my order was for, lied about solving the problem.

This isn’t my first rodeo. I know the game bud.

Then a bunch of dozers come on and talk shit and I dish out exactly what they gave and they lose their mind and get all worked up. How dare a new guy talk back to a member who has 100 points and 500 posts!!!!!! I must be an absolute fool!!

You gotta control yourself until all hope is lost. We all get pissed off.

I've dealt with lots of fuck ups. This is my way of dealing with it.

1. I say to myself....."you stupid Fks fked up again".

2. Compose yourself and email them, politely explain the problem and compliment them on their stealth and or shipping time.

3. New product is shipped out and I keep the problem to myself(I don't go to the forums) so I don't become black listed. More importantly I keep half a kilo of raws they sent by mistake for free.

See how easy that is.

 

[Freakbynature]

This is already a finished deal. Customer contacted us on Weds (the first email we received, he says he sent others, but usually these non proton/tuta get lost in spam.) we replied Thurs, told him we'd reship the package after figuring it just got lost in the damn void of USPS blueboxes, and done deal.

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No reship policy? Foolish.. .. I won't buy raw international for this reason.. I recently ordered a very similar amount of raws and tabs..landed in 4 days and samples are already on there way for hplc

I got a visit from the men in black suits shortly after I received my seizure notice. It was in my best interest to take the loss… so I did.

 

[Atripp1414]

No, you didn't make the proton just for him. You made it so now you can communicate properly with any source without putting both them and yourself at risk.

No I did it just for him, people who think proton is going to keep them safe are dumb. Using a vpn and tor is going to keep you safe

 

[D Zero]

No I did it just for him, people who think proton is going to keep them safe are dumb. Using a vpn and tor is going to keep you safe

Proton is standard practice in our community. We all use it, it's the universal encrypted email and signing up for new accounts requires no personal info or hassle. We use our emails one time for each purchase and close the account after we get our stuff, using a new proton account for each order so as to leave no trail. Proton is used across the board with crypto, wallets.

So get used to proton because that's all you're gonna be using.

Proton was designed specifically to facilitate illegal activity, it is what drives the entire underground. The Swiss are doing the world a great service by offering Proton, thanks to them millions of kilos are safely shipped all over the world.

 

[Atripp1414]

Proton is standard practice in our community. We all use it, it's the universal encrypted email and signing up for new accounts requires no personal info or hassle. We use our emails one time for each purchase and close the account after we get our stuff, using a new proton account for each order so as to leave no trail. Proton is used across the board with crypto, wallets.

So get used to proton because that's all you're gonna be using.

Proton was designed specifically to facilitate illegal activity, it is what drives the entire underground. The Swiss are doing the world a great service by offering Proton, thanks to them millions of kilos are safely shipped all over the world.

You need to listen to me. If You create a yahoo email, use a vpn and Tor… you have a much higher chance of not being noticed OR tracked. Using proton you can still EASILY be tracked straight to your home ESPECIALLY creating a new one every single order..

Wait wait…. So you are telling me you are using your phone or computer on your OWN WiFi and web browser and creating a new proton email every. Single. Time. You. Order.???? Oh my god someone needs to teach the gear community about OPSEC. You need to do more research.

Using a new proton email every single order coming from the same server, same IP address is like waving your hand screaming and shouting and showing the world you are doing illegal activities. Create an email (yes proton is a good choice but doesn’t have to be), encrypt your messages and only access through Tor on a VPN.

Not to mention people like DO use a website that you are ordering and putting your information into. It doesn’t have anything to do with a proton email. Your only as secure as DO’s website is secure…

If y’all are seriously just ordering using only proton email. Please DO NOT try and tell me what is safe and what is not safe as you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

No offense but I would do research on OPSEC ASAP.

 

[Forthewin1123]

I got a visit from the men in black suits shortly after I received my seizure notice. It was in my best interest to take the loss… so I did.

Why is it your best interest? And who visited and why? You had that large order shipped to an adress where you lived at the time?

 

[Atripp1414]

Why is it your best interest? And who visited and why? You had that large order shipped to an adress where you lived at the time?

This dude is full of it. No more advice from you

 

[D Zero]

You need to listen to me. If You create a yahoo email, use a vpn and Tor… you have a much higher chance of not being noticed OR tracked. Using proton you can still EASILY be tracked straight to your home ESPECIALLY creating a new one every single order..

Wait wait…. So you are telling me you are using your phone or computer on your OWN WiFi and web browser and creating a new proton email every. Single. Time. You. Order.???? Oh my god someone needs to teach the gear community about OPSEC. You need to do more research.

Using a new proton email every single order coming from the same server, same IP address is like waving your hand screaming and shouting and showing the world you are doing illegal activities. Create an email (yes proton is a good choice but doesn’t have to be), encrypt your messages and only access through Tor on a VPN.

Not to mention people like DO use a website that you are ordering and putting your information into. It doesn’t have anything to do with a proton email. Your only as secure as DO’s website is secure…

If y’all are seriously just ordering using only proton email. Please DO NOT try and tell me what is safe and what is not safe as you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

No offense but I would do research on OPSEC ASAP.

You're not gonna get busted through email. Sources want Proton to Proton communication that's how it is done. Or Tutanota to Tuta, but that is far less popular and there's a 3 day wait period after you create a new account.


If the Swiss receive a request to look into my email account it doesn't matter if I use VPN or not if it has any of my shipping info. Thus the need to change out emails constantly and keep moving around. The swiss could in fact look into my email, but they'll only see one transaction, I'll already be ten emails down the road by the time that happens and hopefully the swiss will have purged my info in a timely manner.

If you're dumb enough to keep the same email and you're email is all over the place with dozens of sources, it's doesn't take too much to see you've been a very busy beaver.

 

[nealcaffrey16]

best solution is just to do both trains of thought. or simply don't order illegal shit.

 

[Atripp1414]

best solution is just to do both trains of thought. or simply don't order illegal shit.

Dragon ordnance sells legal products as well. My order was legal

 

[Atripp1414]

So @DragonOrdnance did reply to me and is sending my out the proper replacement tomorrow. So as far as I can see he has made it right and is correcting it.

Through all the back and fourth banter he has still chose to make it right so that is props to him.

It’s just hope his warehouse doesn’t accidentally send me the old order for the third time.

 

[D Zero]

So @DragonOrdnance did reply to me and is sending my out the proper replacement tomorrow. So as far as I can see he has made it right and is correcting it.

Through all the back and fourth banter he has still chose to make it right so that is props to him.

It’s just hope his warehouse doesn’t accidentally send me the old order for the third time.

 

[Randohando]

You’re agro as fuck and a giant as man child who thinks he’s always right. Pure toxic.

 

[MindlessWork]

So @DragonOrdnance did reply to me and is sending my out the proper replacement tomorrow. So as far as I can see he has made it right and is correcting it.

Through all the back and fourth banter he has still chose to make it right so that is props to him.

It’s just hope his warehouse doesn’t accidentally send me the old order for the third time.

Patience padawan patience...

Put down that cup of coffee LOL.

 

[mdavid82]

Proton is standard practice in our community. We all use it, it's the universal encrypted email and signing up for new accounts requires no personal info or hassle. We use our emails one time for each purchase and close the account after we get our stuff, using a new proton account for each order so as to leave no trail. Proton is used across the board with crypto, wallets.

So get used to proton because that's all you're gonna be using.

Proton was designed specifically to facilitate illegal activity, it is what drives the entire underground. The Swiss are doing the world a great service by offering Proton, thanks to them millions of kilos are safely shipped all over the world.

I have never done this but now I will start. Thank-you