New to online ordering of Aas?

CdnGuy

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This threads purpose is to shed some light and possibly save the "new guy" a few bucks if new to purchasing online Aas. Meso does not encourage nor endorses any illegal activities. These are only suggestion and helpful tips. Saftey and security should always be priority.

Remember this....No ugl or reseller is ever a 100% sure thing. It does not matter how many people are happy or how many great reviews a lab has. At any point in time a lab can either send out bad batches or worse just close shop and walk with your money.

Do your homework- Do not rely on other members on any fourms to make the decision for you (dont be pressured). Do not get caught up in the hype of "the next greatest lab" !!! More often then not many labs that come to these fourms. Will have a team of "new"or fake members, all giving their "glowing" reviews aka "shills". OR in some cases well-known members will use their status to vouch for a lab. In return these members are usually getting a deal on their gear ( % off). So read, read and then read some more before you consider a possible purchase !!!!!

Using patience & waiting to see how things pan out can be a big saviour. Desperation will most certainly be ones down fall. It's like blood in the sea, and the sharks can smell it miles away! Also there being so many new ugl labs out. Some will use certain tricks to start a buzz and get your money pouring in . IE "overdosing gear" then later down the road they can send out the "under dosed".To be clear this example has happened in the past so it's food for thought.

Do not spend what you cannot afford to lose!!!!!!! If you're living on a budget then spend on a budget! Do not blow your load on a very first order with any lab/reseller. Things can happen regardless so use common sense.

Security is huge when dealing with your personal info. Ask the sellers how long they keep your info stored for. Also ask if you can request your info be removed at ANY point. Reading the lab threads is very important not only for the product qualitiesbeing reported. But to see if any mistakes have been made with personal info. And yes it has happened here in the past with a couple of ugl. Just a heads up...

One thing i would like too add from personal perception in regards to ugl to watch for. Professionalism !!!! How a lab rep or owner speak and treats his customers can tell alot. Also when a problem does arise (which it will). How the issue is dealt with in a timely and professional manner is a good indicator. If the lab cares enough then the chances are better it wants to stick around. But never a sure thing in the end.

Hopefully these simple tips may help you in the future and welcome to Meso.
 
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More often then not many labs that come to these fourms. Will have a team of "new"or fake members, all giving their "glowing" reviews aka "shills". OR in some cases well-known members will use their status to vouch for a lab. In return these members are usually getting a deal on their gear ( % off).

Have you seen the @StanfordPharma thread? In your opinion, and with your experience, do you think that's going on? Rare to see a lot of vets back a source so adamantly. Guys who I consider stand up, you know what I mean?

Not to mention the coming out public coincided with a well known member starting a cycle log running said sources gear.

All those reviews may be genuine, and the log may just be a log. But the things you mention in your post, things to look out for when ordering, something just made my spider sense tingle.


(I'm just stirring shit up, I don't ever intend to use that source I just found the circumstances interesting)

(2nd addendum: I hate to do it to you, I don't wanna bring you to a place where you don't wanna be, or moved on from)
 
Have you seen the @StanfordPharma thread? In your opinion, and with your experience, do you think that's going on? Rare to see a lot of vets back a source so adamantly. Guys who I consider stand up, you know what I mean?

Not to mention the coming out public coincided with a well known member starting a cycle log running said sources gear.

All those reviews may be genuine, and the log may just be a log. But the things you mention in your post, things to look out for when ordering, something just made my spider sense tingle.


(I'm just stirring shit up, I don't ever intend to use that source I just found the circumstances interesting)

(2nd addendum: I hate to do it to you, I don't wanna bring you to a place where you don't wanna be, or moved on from)
After re reading my post I noticed it sounds vague or like I was trying to pussyfoot around the situation. So I'll just tag the member who's log coincides with @StanfordPharma coming out public (or semi public whatever the hell he is doing?)

@TorroXL
 
I think it's simply a know private source that made a thread and went semi public for a short stretch for a refresh of a customer base. If it was one, maybe 2 members I'd say it could be a strange situation (like me and PPL lol) but he has a small army of guys, too many for smoke and mirrors imo.
 
@Ickyrica

I guess the dynamic just feels different between a private source and a public source. I can read a review by you and make a decision based on my opinion of you and our interactions and all the public info out there on panda vs just seeing a well known member post a review about a private source, and having nothing else to go by. It seems like perception is trying to be forced.
 
@Ickyrica

I guess the dynamic just feels different between a private source and a public source. I can read a review by you and make a decision based on my opinion of you and our interactions and all the public info out there on panda vs just seeing a well known member post a review about a private source, and having nothing else to go by. It seems like perception is trying to be forced.
I hear you. It makes sense. Being able to cross reference appropriately helps.

The thing that attracted me to PPL, aside from low pricing, was reading about how he handled issues. That's key in my book, you really learn about someone's character when things go badly.

With Stanford all you have is praise and high fives from a handful of WKMs. Private sources have that cover of not having to be under the communities spot light so knowing how they handle bad shit isn't publicly known. From what I can tell though, private sources are generally "friends" with their customers and wouldn't fuck them over if something went sideways. But, my experience with this is limited so tifwiw.
 
Also, I am personally taking this source and his efforts at face value. I have zero reason to suspect anything nefarious of him or any existing members that are vouching for him
 
@Ickyrica

I guess the dynamic just feels different between a private source and a public source. I can read a review by you and make a decision based on my opinion of you and our interactions and all the public info out there on panda vs just seeing a well known member post a review about a private source, and having nothing else to go by. It seems like perception is trying to be forced.

Just curious, how much actual proof have you seen on PPl! Blood work (2) or Labtests (0). I'm having a hard time finding anything except opinions. He does seem to take care of bad situations fairly well.
 
Just curious, how much actual proof have you seen on PPl! Blood work (2) or Labtests (0). I'm having a hard time finding anything except opinions. He does seem to take care of bad situations fairly well.
Meso has a bunch of bloods. Other boards have plenty as well. keep reading. The raws have been labmaxed and in a few cases analyzed in a lab as well. Finished oils habe been lab maxed too. Gotta keep reading.
 
Have you seen the @StanfordPharma thread? In your opinion, and with your experience, do you think that's going on? Rare to see a lot of vets back a source so adamantly. Guys who I consider stand up, you know what I mean?

Not to mention the coming out public coincided with a well known member starting a cycle log running said sources gear.

All those reviews may be genuine, and the log may just be a log. But the things you mention in your post, things to look out for when ordering, something just made my spider sense tingle.


(I'm just stirring shit up, I don't ever intend to use that source I just found the circumstances interesting)

(2nd addendum: I hate to do it to you, I don't wanna bring you to a place where you don't wanna be, or moved on from)
The WKM’s that are backing Stanford have used him exclusively for quite a while. Some of the others who have also were disappointed that he went public because they like him being private. If you search the pics, you’ll find a lot of Stanford gear porn pics. They were showing off their gear long ago. When you find a good lab, you tend to endorse - call it shilling, call it whatever.
 
Meso has a bunch of bloods. Other boards have plenty as well. keep reading. The raws have been labmaxed and in a few cases analyzed in a lab as well. Finished oils habe been lab maxed too. Gotta keep reading.

10-4 @Ickyrica I've got finished test from the original ppl domestic before Atlas took over, but no Raws. I'll have blood work in 8 weeks to post. Pre-bloods ordered for Wed. I guess my point is it's all somewhat shooting from the hip.
 
My days of throwing people under the bus are over. If one chooses to open their eyes they will see the sad reality of this game @AnTabolic73 ;)(spidey senses working just fine) !
Apologies for some grammatical errors in the first post was in bed half asleep last night haha

Was it your spidey sense tingling or was it all that meth tingling your brain?
 
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