malfeasance
Well-known Member
I'd be interested in hearing more about how primo treats you when you run it. We have very few females posting experiences here.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Newbie female AAS user
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meeks
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I seriously can’t tell if you’re serious
meeks
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I plan on tracking progress pretty closely and keeping a little journal of my experience. I’ll definitely be posting something here when I consolidate all the info after running it
Eman
Master
That is actually a thing some guys swear by... I tried it on my first cycle but it didn't do much for me.
Black African soap helped a little bit and so did Dr Bronner Tea Tree Soap... But the only thing that really got it under control was accutane. Acne pretty much became something to no longer worry about after doing a full course of it.
Logan44551
Elite
True story, I don't know why it works, but I've read it on here multiple times supposedly it works. Can't hurt right!?
meeks
New Member
As long as it’s not going to cause worse acne, definitely can’t hurt!
meeks
New Member
I’m going to try to exhaust all other options before accurate. That’s one less substance to introduce to put strain in my body internally. But I’m sure it was very helpful
Eman
Master
Yeah, I guess that was kind of my point... I would not recommend it unless literally nothing else touches it.
italianfan
New Member
Regarding recommendations on compounds to use in women, I am not really in a position to recommend anything for them or even gentlemen, but since Bill Roberts has been mentioned, I would like to include in the discussion Victor Black´s video where he exposes, with many details, why he believes that the most friendly compound for women is Testosterone in low doses. What you, girls that have used it, think about?
VIDEO:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_k555z4Lzc&t
VIDEO:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_k555z4Lzc&t
meeks
New Member
Thank you so much for sharing this. I’ve never seen victor black’s channel before but that was definitely an interesting take on female AAS use. Very in depth and explained extremely well. Gives me a lot to consider
malfeasance
Well-known Member
3 mg a week? So 1.5 mg twice a week? Using the normal concentration of testosterone enanthate, that would be 0.6 clicks on the tiniest of insulin syringes . . . this is like the excess error amount in the needle.
How would you possibly dose this amount?
How would you possibly dose this amount?
wsmwannabe
Member
My wife was looking into testosterone (never went through with it, at least not yet) and the endo was talking about having a deodorant stick like thing that women can use. Just 2-3 clicks per day apparently. Since she didn’t go through with it idk what it looks like or how it’s used exactly. But apparently this is one way of getting ultra low dose test
Logan44551
Elite
You could add 20 ml of sterile oil, then the concentration would be diluted and amount of oil per shot would increase obviously
PeterBond
Well-known Member
Some labs produce in concentrations of 10 mg/mL, else it's indeed pretty much impossible to dose that low. Unless, as Logan mentions, you dilute it further yourself, which I can easily see going wrong by contaminating it in a non-negligible number of cases.
Having said that, 3 mg weekly has little to do with gaining muscle if that's your goal as a woman. While it will put your testosterone a bit above what's normally seen in healthy, menstruating, women, it's of little help for gaining muscle.
As known, testosterone is very potent for muscle-building given in the right dosages. Give hypogonadal men TRT and you'll see increases in LBM and strength. Give eugonadal men gradually increasing dosages of testosterone in the supraphysiological range, and you'll see gradually greater increases in LBM and strength.
However, if you give women with low testosterone, as seen in menopause, 3 mg of testosterone weekly (which puts them above normal levels), you don't see any of this yet. Quite in fact, you don't start to see any changes in strength or LBM unless you go beyond 12.5 mg weekly:
Testosterone Dose-Response Relationships in Hysterectomized Women with and without Oophorectomy: Effects on Sexual Function, Body Composition, Muscle Performance and Physical Function in a Randomized Trial - PMC
To determine dose-dependent effects of testosterone on sexual function, body composition, muscle performance, and physical function in hysterectomized women with and without oophorectomy. 71 menopausal women who previously underwent hysterectomy ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The threshold is just relatively higher.
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PeterBond
Well-known Member
A standard treatment/prevention protocol for acne that I would advice is zinc (up to 40 mg daily), vitamin D (>1000 IU daily), omega 3 fatty acids (1 g EPA, 1 g DHA daily), and either application of benzoyl peroxide cream (2.5-5%) or a topical retinoid (adapalene 0.3%) every other day on the affected areas. Benzoyl peroxide has a bleaching effect on textile, so probably most convenient to stick to a retinoid. If all else fails, isotretinoin (roaccutane) works massively well. Even dosages as low as 10 mg daily or every other day can lead to good results, with little side effects.
meeks
New Member
I wonder if this changes in women who have not yet begun menopause though...Some labs produce in concentrations of 10 mg/mL, else it's indeed pretty much impossible to dose that low. Unless, as Logan mentions, you dilute it further yourself, which I can easily see going wrong by contaminating it in a non-negligible number of cases.
Having said that, 3 mg weekly has little to do with gaining muscle if that's your goal as a woman. While it will put your testosterone a bit above what's normally seen in healthy, menstruating, women, it's of little help for gaining muscle.
As known, testosterone is very potent for muscle-building given in the right dosages. Give hypogonadal men TRT and you'll see increases in LBM and strength. Give eugonadal men gradually increasing dosages of testosterone in the supraphysiological range, and you'll see gradually greater increases in LBM and strength.
However, if you give women with low testosterone, as seen in menopause, 3 mg of testosterone weekly (which puts them above normal levels), you don't see any of this yet. Quite in fact, you don't start to see any changes in strength or LBM unless you go beyond 12.5 mg weekly:
Testosterone Dose-Response Relationships in Hysterectomized Women with and without Oophorectomy: Effects on Sexual Function, Body Composition, Muscle Performance and Physical Function in a Randomized Trial - PMC
To determine dose-dependent effects of testosterone on sexual function, body composition, muscle performance, and physical function in hysterectomized women with and without oophorectomy. 71 menopausal women who previously underwent hysterectomy ...
The threshold is just relatively higher.
PeterBond
Well-known Member
All things equal, I would guess you're actually more likely to observe body composition changes in an intervention like this with women having a low testosterone vs women with a cycle and normal testosterone (thus also assuming the same age). Granted, at older age you do see somewhat of a gradual increase in anabolic resistance, so the "all things equal" isn't precisely fair, because they were on average in their early 50's in this trial. But at least in men older age (60-75 years old) doesn't appear to affect the muscle-building effect of testosterone:
Older Men Are as Responsive as Young Men to the Anabolic Effects of Graded Doses of Testosterone on the Skeletal Muscle
Although testosterone levels and muscle mass decline with age, many older men have serum testosterone level in the normal range, leading to speculation abo
academic.oup.com
meeks
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That’s totally fair, I think I’d tend to agree with that logic. Thank you for attaching theses studies. I look forward to browsing them when I canAll things equal, I would guess you're actually more likely to observe body composition changes in an intervention like this with women having a low testosterone vs women with a cycle and normal testosterone (thus also assuming the same age). Granted, at older age you do see somewhat of a gradual increase in anabolic resistance, so the "all things equal" isn't precisely fair, because they were on average in their early 50's in this trial. But at least in men older age (60-75 years old) doesn't appear to affect the muscle-building effect of testosterone:
Older Men Are as Responsive as Young Men to the Anabolic Effects of Graded Doses of Testosterone on the Skeletal Muscle
Although testosterone levels and muscle mass decline with age, many older men have serum testosterone level in the normal range, leading to speculation abo
leggodess
Banned
For acne I take high dosages of vitamin B5. It keeps my acne to a minimum.
meeks
New Member
Very interesting, I would’ve never thought about that! How does the B vitamin combat acne?
