Newbie guide to what concentrations to avoid from a UGL price list?

[geodesic7]

Is there any sticky guide for FNGs what mg/ml concentrations for each compound are most often junk from cheap UGL vendors, in terms of pip, underdose, crashing, or harsh solvent needs

(no names or prices)

My total guess newb concentrations from reading around:

TestP 100mg/ml is standard
200 mg/ml to be avoided?
All Test mixes above 300mg/ml best to avoid.
PRIMO E - both 100 and 200 sound OK, but more PIP and risk of underdose at 200?
Masteron seems to just be simple halflife choice 100mg/ml for short prop vs 200 for longer Eth
DECA 200mg vs 300mg/ml opinions?
NPP 100mg reliable, 200mg/ml suspicious?
EQ good up to 300mg/ml, avoid higher

 

[lukiss96]

Pretty much. Pro tip is to avoid Test E due to possible pip issues, safest choice seems to be Test C. There is also Test Undec, which pip free, but wait until you advance you don't want to mess with a half life that's about month long. Good job already on collecting info. Keep reading and asking around.

 

[knucklesamich]

Good question, but there's a bit of complexity there.
Take a looksie in the Home Brew section. EQ is already a liquid, it can be brewed really high concentration, 500mg is fine, doesn't/can't crash, and pipless (doesn't normally come that high, I'd wager it's because of sticker shock that'd occur--it'd be much more expensive than 250). NPP at 200mg/ml will crash all the time unless you use some exotic things to prevent it-folks that sell a finished product don't like their stuff to crash as their patrons probably don't know how to respond to crashed gear and what to do about it-so they avoid it.

Some compounds, like you might have guessed, if higher than "normal" concentration, will hurt. If some lab offered 500mg/ml Test C, I'd be pretty suspiscous of it and probably avoid it--it will most likely hurt like hell and crash all the time. Might be BS too, (advertised as 500, but really 300).

 

[knucklesamich]

Pretty much. Pro tip is to avoid Test E due to possible pip issues, safest choice seems to be Test C. There is also Test Undec, which pip free, but wait until you advance you don't want to mess with a half life that's about month long. Good job already on collecting info. Keep reading and asking around.

Haha yep, just say no to Test E

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

The problem with the test E raws was years ago… Test E is good to go. Keep buying that test C that falls out of suspension as soon as it hits lower than 70 degrees outside lol. I’ll keep all the test E for myself.

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

Also… EQ and Deca can go very high mg/ml with no pip

 

[stargab]

Pretty much. Pro tip is to avoid Test E due to possible pip issues, safest choice seems to be Test C. There is also Test Undec, which pip free, but wait until you advance you don't want to mess with a half life that's about month long. Good job already on collecting info. Keep reading and asking around.

It took me so long to embrace Test C lol. Back in the days it was all about Test E. Everything changed when the batches with PIP started pouring in.

 

[knucklesamich]

It took me so long to embrace Test C lol. Back in the days it was all about Test E. Everything changed when the batches with PIP started pouring in.

Yep I wouldn't agree that it was a long time ago either. I purchased 600 grams of it, that me and two friends split just a few years ago. It was all bad. Not your normal pip, it was: horrible, debilitating, crippling ass pip. So bad . . . We threw it all out. DHB has pip, I think everyone would agree with that, but DHB didn't have shit on that Test E. I think a few of the folks here know exactly what causes it too, it's carbolic acid I believe.

 

[Banana Joe]

Is there any sticky guide for FNGs what mg/ml concentrations for each compound are most often junk from cheap UGL vendors, in terms of pip, underdose, crashing, or harsh solvent needs

(no names or prices)

My total guess newb concentrations from reading around:

TestP 100mg/ml is standard
200 mg/ml to be avoided?
All Test mixes above 300mg/ml best to avoid.
PRIMO E - both 100 and 200 sound OK, but more PIP and risk of underdose at 200?
Masteron seems to just be simple halflife choice 100mg/ml for short prop vs 200 for longer Eth
DECA 200mg vs 300mg/ml opinions?
NPP 100mg reliable, 200mg/ml suspicious?
EQ good up to 300mg/ml, avoid higher

Seems like you've done your homework!

Given that you are apparently not too advanced, my agnle would be to stick with the lower concentrations, just to stay one the safe side healthwise.
Minimal risk of getting PIP or inflammation from harsh solvents!