Flaming Dragon
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It's going to be awhile... my blood work didn't come out like I wanted it to.. I'll give more time to recover and retest
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Nutpuncher's Log: Searching for fountain of youth
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It's going to be awhile... my blood work didn't come out like I wanted it to.. I'll give more time to recover and retest
Smart and very responsible! It's all about longevity over quick and reckless unkeepable gains.
Flaming Dragon
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Yeap, I am in this game for the long run! Long as I recover, I'll continue to cycle!
Stay safe and be swoll!
Now that I got me my HGH, I can start my journey/search for the Fountain of Youth.
Today is HGH day 9.
For what it's worth, TP told me that batch #13 is nearly 98% pure and aims for 5mg per vial which is standard for his Meditrope aka Blacktops.
With that in mind I added 1.5ml bac water to first vial. Pinned 1iu day 1 then 2iu before bed until vial empty. Went fast because shared with wife (same protocol).
Did the trick that @Bob Dole referenced an article by Bill Roberts (I think) that discuss how to reduce wasting (few pages back I think) last drops when changing to new vial. Only 1ml added to 2nd vial. Same protocol. Wife stopped because didn't want daily pins and didn't want to take from me. Which is cool but I'd rather us share this experience together.
1.2ml to 3rd and 4th vial. Decided on 1.2ml because that's the max capacity in slin pin. Changed to 1.5iu first thing in morning and 1.5iu before bed. Then increased to 2iu am and 2iu before bed in hopes of sides. So that I know what HGH sides feels like.
Going forward (for now) I'll only pin 3iu before bed and fill with 1.2ml bac water.
So far no sides except sleepy at times between 11am - 3pm. No CTS nor bloat.
How long before sides usually kick in?
Slept better the last 2 nights since pre-TRT (nov 2015 if I remember correctly). At times my muscles feels fuller and slightly pumped....could be placebo and/or daily low dose cialis.
Today is HGH day 9.
For what it's worth, TP told me that batch #13 is nearly 98% pure and aims for 5mg per vial which is standard for his Meditrope aka Blacktops.
With that in mind I added 1.5ml bac water to first vial. Pinned 1iu day 1 then 2iu before bed until vial empty. Went fast because shared with wife (same protocol).
Did the trick that @Bob Dole referenced an article by Bill Roberts (I think) that discuss how to reduce wasting (few pages back I think) last drops when changing to new vial. Only 1ml added to 2nd vial. Same protocol. Wife stopped because didn't want daily pins and didn't want to take from me. Which is cool but I'd rather us share this experience together.
1.2ml to 3rd and 4th vial. Decided on 1.2ml because that's the max capacity in slin pin. Changed to 1.5iu first thing in morning and 1.5iu before bed. Then increased to 2iu am and 2iu before bed in hopes of sides. So that I know what HGH sides feels like.
Going forward (for now) I'll only pin 3iu before bed and fill with 1.2ml bac water.
So far no sides except sleepy at times between 11am - 3pm. No CTS nor bloat.
How long before sides usually kick in?
Slept better the last 2 nights since pre-TRT (nov 2015 if I remember correctly). At times my muscles feels fuller and slightly pumped....could be placebo and/or daily low dose cialis.
Megadick3000
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Been there bro. Lost 3 years of my life to a fentanyl addiction. Quit cold turkey about 12-15 times. Watched 2 ppl I know die from it. Saved another's life with mouth to mouth resuscitation when he OD'd in front of me only to have him try to kill me 3 months later with a hammer to rob me. Fuck opiates. Fuck scumbags too.
Glad you have overcome addiction and that you didn't die from getting robbed with a hammer. Karma will take care of that person. I am who I am due to all the hardship/addiction that I've lived thru. I don't think I'd appreciate life as much otherwise.
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I was thinking about TP's comment about how he aims for 5mg in each vial and have to call low level BS because isn't filling a vial something the operator has control over? Doesn't the operator select how much to fill each vial? If so, I don't understand how he "aims" for 5mg unless my understanding is wrong which often times it is.
Damn, slept so fucking good last night. So good that my neck is kinked because I think I slept in same awkward position most of the night.
Just got done with a high volume lower weight chest workout. It was basically 1 big ass superset/dropset that lasted 15 mins nonstop. My workouts during work hours are limited to my breaks. My pec and surrounding muscles feels different. Almost feels like I ripped my muscles in a good way. Slightly painful and discomfort but in a good way.
Affected muscles feels as if I connected a air hose and pumped and stretched. I know this is not placebo because it's not in my head.
Affected muscles feels as if I connected a air hose and pumped and stretched. I know this is not placebo because it's not in my head.
Megadick3000
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True that. Going through physical withdrawals showed me what suffering can feel like. Afterwards the bar gets set really high for what you consider feeling crappy. I guess it's that old saying what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Anyways your physique looks great bro good work turning your life around and best of luck with your foray into HGH.
Get BIG homie!!! Keep going!
So cpl more fellow opiate addicts. Im 17 years clean of a monstwr heroin addiction. And i know what MD3000 means the bar getting set higher for feeling crappy. Ever since i kicked, when i get a flu it barely even effects me cause compared to being dope sick a flu aint shit.
Anyway , NP I saw that you asked jim about dosing for fat loss and im gonna tell you that i pin 2iu before bed and i am fucking amazed at how lean i am. I have abs and obliques. I think i still have about 5-8lbs to loose in order to have really crisp abs but im real close. Of course i eat real clean except on fat boy friday. Trust me, you should have no problem shedding fat, i wouldn't overthink it.
Just keep hittin it hard and eating clean, you got this!!!
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Anyway , NP I saw that you asked jim about dosing for fat loss and im gonna tell you that i pin 2iu before bed and i am fucking amazed at how lean i am. I have abs and obliques. I think i still have about 5-8lbs to loose in order to have really crisp abs but im real close. Of course i eat real clean except on fat boy friday. Trust me, you should have no problem shedding fat, i wouldn't overthink it.
Just keep hittin it hard and eating clean, you got this!!!
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Congrats on overcoming opiates. I swear Opiates were invented by the devil. It makes you feel so good, but also so bad.
Since you pin gh before bed, are you concerned about negative feedback loop? Some say that it's "best" to not use before bed so that you can take advantage of when your body naturally produces the most gh. With that in mind, it makes sense to pin when your producing the least/or not at all such as first thing in morning or early afternoon.
I also like the idea of pinning before workout. Have you considered that option?
However, many folks including yourself use before bed and sounds like your getting excellent results.
Dr Jim said.....
The way I am analyzing gh is simiar to testosterone injections....I overcomplicate and make it more than what it should be at first with many questions and many different opinions.... Now I simply just pin long ester 2x week and short esters e2d.
Went to doc last week to have him take a look at a mole on my collar bone that my wife thinks is growing. Doc said its fine. My BP was 158 over 82 which is highest ever. Doc was concerned so did EKG, thank goodness my heart is normal.
Got prescribed BP lowering meds. 5mg Cialis for daily use and antibiotics for acne.
could my elevated BP and acne is a byproduct of tren...????? Finished CompTren roughly couple weeks ago.
Now I am back to my TRT dose 60mg 2x week and will still continue 100mg DECA. I stopped proviron. I want to give my body a rest for a bit.
Had first rest day last Thursday in many months. Deadlift Friday and felt strong. Chest today with lower weights and rep range 10-20.
Anybody tried 1 arm cable flys? It's my new way of doing cable flys. I can much better stretch. I tap my pec with free handle to help with mind muscle connection....and it actually works.
I also started 1 arm lat pull downs and cable rows using the single grip thing that is used for cable flys..... Holy shit, I get great stretch and same as above, tap lat with free hand.
Try it!
Got prescribed BP lowering meds. 5mg Cialis for daily use and antibiotics for acne.
could my elevated BP and acne is a byproduct of tren...????? Finished CompTren roughly couple weeks ago.
Now I am back to my TRT dose 60mg 2x week and will still continue 100mg DECA. I stopped proviron. I want to give my body a rest for a bit.
Had first rest day last Thursday in many months. Deadlift Friday and felt strong. Chest today with lower weights and rep range 10-20.
Anybody tried 1 arm cable flys? It's my new way of doing cable flys. I can much better stretch. I tap my pec with free handle to help with mind muscle connection....and it actually works.
I also started 1 arm lat pull downs and cable rows using the single grip thing that is used for cable flys..... Holy shit, I get great stretch and same as above, tap lat with free hand.
Try it!
BULKTIME
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Nice to hear NUTPUNCHER! Looking forward to hearing your process
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GH sides for me kicked in pretty quickly. Especially the lethargy (a week's time) and the hand tingling. The lethargy went away for me in about six weeks. It was brutal at first but I was doing six iu's/day. I dropped down to 4 and it got much better.
Hey, long time no chat. Glad your following along.
I can feel Lethargy already but no hand numbing/tingling/CTS sensation yet....maybe I won't get as long as I keep dose on low side. My leg muscles mostly feels odd whenever I wake up from deep sleep at night which doesn't seem to happen much but hopefully will soon now that tren is done I'll sleep better. Odd as in when I stretch them, both legs shake somewhat violently. Not sure if it's related to gh or not because never heard happen to anyone else.
I am not immune to gh sides. Today my finger tips are numb, wrist is stiff and my face feels bloated. Especially my eyes, they feel puffy. It took about 3 weeks to get these sides. I am only pinning 2iu.....From my readings, I didn't think 2iu would give sides as it's slightly above your natural gh.
So, my theory is that TP wasn't bullshitting. Meditrope are over dosed. I put 1.2ml bac water. Maybe I'll use 1.5ml bac water as each vial is supposed to be 5.115mg w/ 98.02 purity. Which equals 15.345iu per vial. Or continue with 1.2ml bac water and only pin 1.5iu which would equal 2iu.
Sleep last night was so good. went to bed at 8pm and woke up at 5:15am and wanted to sleep more.
I think it's in my head but I feel like I've shrunk since I am not on tren anymore. I haven't tested PRs yet so not sure how much strength I've lost.
So, my theory is that TP wasn't bullshitting. Meditrope are over dosed. I put 1.2ml bac water. Maybe I'll use 1.5ml bac water as each vial is supposed to be 5.115mg w/ 98.02 purity. Which equals 15.345iu per vial. Or continue with 1.2ml bac water and only pin 1.5iu which would equal 2iu.
Sleep last night was so good. went to bed at 8pm and woke up at 5:15am and wanted to sleep more.
I think it's in my head but I feel like I've shrunk since I am not on tren anymore. I haven't tested PRs yet so not sure how much strength I've lost.
have you weighed yourself to check if you have lost weight? Could just be in your head,as i find it takes a month or more for me to really notice any size diff. But that was when i came off completely, now that i trt, i dont reall notice much loss at all.
I never have had any sides that i notice with GH, interesting to see so many with numb hands and such. BTW what does Dr JIM mean by BID injections? Im not apposed to changing my protocol if there is a advantage to doing so.
My weight fluxs between 163-168 now. Couple weeks ago, 165-170. But I changed my diet to primary white fish instead of meat. So my caloric intake is lower. I want to start gettinf ready for summer as i have 2 vacations planned where ill be on the water most of the time. I dont want to make mistake of cutting too late and cutting too many calories.
BID = twice a day. I am ok with BID. I actually like that idea.....but i wonder if 1iu in morning and 1iu before bed better than 2iu before bed.... Whats your thoughts? My fear is 1iu is not enough to consume at once, but i have no proof other than my concern.
My weight fluxs between 163-168 now. Couple weeks ago, 165-170. But I changed my diet to primary white fish instead of meat. So my caloric intake is lower. I want to start gettinf ready for summer as i have 2 vacations planned where ill be on the water most of the time. I dont want to make mistake of cutting too late and cutting too many calories.
BID = twice a day. I am ok with BID. I actually like that idea.....but i wonder if 1iu in morning and 1iu before bed better than 2iu before bed.... Whats your thoughts? My fear is 1iu is not enough to consume at once, but i have no proof other than my concern.
Bit i also like the idea of pinning before bed only because your grow when you sleep, so why not maximize it with gh. Also we are both older so our naturally gh production is low...especially mine. Mine is below the normal range.
I fell the same as you on the 1iu. I guess right now 2iu before bed is working great so if it aint broke.. Yada yada!!!
Im about 8lbs down from when i started GH and eating really clean, but people tell me i look like i got bigger. Years ago i decided the best way to gauge where im at is the mirror not the scale, saves me alot of frustration. I figure if i like the way i look , who cares what i weigh.
