OEP LABS Domestic

[OEP LABS]

So in the case PTFE sterile capsule filters are scarce. Upon researching and checking chemical compatibly charts Nylon is an acceptable membrane to use for filtering testosterones media. Unless we have something black and white that states not, and I am open to discussion 100%. Check below

Tisch Scientific | Material Compatibility

www.tischscientific.com

Another interesting find is that if you want to meet the industry standard you should be running a gauge to monitor the pressure on the filter. However by doing so you should be using a high quality metal such as 317L stainless per researching. However, you wont find it because I tried. I called a custom metal manufacturer and he stated that special type of metal is so resistant to corrosion they don't just offer it in plain sight.

Why should you be running a gauge because filters break down when you run them to hard.

I got a quote on a stainless 317 - T-Fitting, 2 -90* degree angles with 2 --3/8 barbs, all 1/4 NPT threaded. Roughly the whole small set up cost around $1200 custom made. While it seems 316 stainless is acceptable, 317L is by far superior.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

So in the case PTFE sterile capsule filters are scarce. Upon researching and checking chemical compatibly charts Nylon is an acceptable membrane to use for filtering testosterones media. Unless we have something black and white that states not, and I am open to discussion 100%. Check below

Tisch Scientific | Material Compatibility

www.tischscientific.com

Another interesting find is that if you want to meet the industry standard you should be running a gauge to monitor the pressure on the filter. However by doing so you should be using a high quality metal such as 317L stainless per researching. However, you wont find it because I tried. I called a custom metal manufacturer and he stated that special type of metal is so resistant to corrosion they don't just offer it in plain sight.

Why should you be running a gauge because filters break down when you run them to hard.

I got a quote on a stainless 317 - T-Fitting, 2 -90* degree angles with 2 --3/8 barbs, all 1/4 NPT threaded. Roughly the whole small set up cost around $1200 custom made. While it seems 316 stainless is acceptable, 317L is by far superior.

Pench gonna pop for that 317L because he loves us all.

 

[RockyP]

AD100 crashes in 2 hours lol..not usable lmao.
AD75 crashes in 24 hours.
AD50 crashes in a week.

I have to check my notes but I used either 3/50 or 2/60.

Either way I strongly suggest getting it really hot before each pin even if it doesn't look crashed.

I've been using the 75 daily pwo.

Wanted to bump this, as this has been my experience precisely. It MUST be heated (directly on hot plate, 131 - 145F has been working for me) prior to each use.

@Photon - significant difference between 75 and 50 mg PWO? When I was messing with Anavar I couldn't see much benefit / difference from 60 mg vs 40 mg so I stuck with the lower dose.

 

[OEP LABS]

Pench gonna pop for that 317L because he loves us all.

Oh I didn’t call just to window shop my man. Let’s see what kind of sketch design he sends me via email. He suggested I go with a 1 piece solid design to reduce price, but I told him this is a on-growing project let’s leave it individually pieced.

 

[Photon]

Wanted to bump this, as this has been my experience precisely. It MUST be heated (directly on hot plate, 131 - 145F has been working for me) prior to each use.

@Photon - significant difference between 75 and 50 mg PWO? When I was messing with Anavar I couldn't see much benefit / difference from 60 mg vs 40 mg so I stuck with the lower dose.

To be honest i never stayed on 50 long.
When i first pin'd 50mg, i had PIP, then i heated it up, realized the PIP was gone..and well onwards to 75mg/ml. I was barely on 50 for a few days..

The initial PIP was bad tho lol..

This was what i used based off my notes..
AD75
2.3 / 57.9

AD100
2.8 / 60.6
Crashed in 2 hours

 

[OEP LABS]

To be honest i never stayed on 50 long.
When i first pin'd 50mg, i had PIP, then i heated it up, realized the PIP was gone..and well onwards to 75mg/ml. I was barely on 50 for a few days..

The initial PIP was bad tho lol..

This was what i used based off my notes..
AD75
2.3 / 57.9

AD100
2.8 / 60.6
Crashed in 2 hours

Thank you for sharing @Photon, I will come back to these on the next round of Anadrol Inject aka "push the envelope" project .

Its nice to see folks helping one another amongst the community. I'm going to test drive these new clamps, the design is different than your average worm clamp.

This Test E unfiltered media is quite stubborn, the purity was good like the last batch 91%. Material was vacuum sealed but it can push this pressure upwards pretty fast. I'm sure I'm biased though as TE is my least favorite lady out of the entire bunch. I'll post pics of the clamp design if they hold true to their Grip! Lets go find out!

 

[Rawnjohnson]

So in the case PTFE sterile capsule filters are scarce. Upon researching and checking chemical compatibly charts Nylon is an acceptable membrane to use for filtering testosterones media. Unless we have something black and white that states not, and I am open to discussion 100%. Check below

Tisch Scientific | Material Compatibility

www.tischscientific.com

Another interesting find is that if you want to meet the industry standard you should be running a gauge to monitor the pressure on the filter. However by doing so you should be using a high quality metal such as 317L stainless per researching. However, you wont find it because I tried. I called a custom metal manufacturer and he stated that special type of metal is so resistant to corrosion they don't just offer it in plain sight.

Why should you be running a gauge because filters break down when you run them to hard.

I got a quote on a stainless 317 - T-Fitting, 2 -90* degree angles with 2 --3/8 barbs, all 1/4 NPT threaded. Roughly the whole small set up cost around $1200 custom made. While it seems 316 stainless is acceptable, 317L is by far superior.

You don’t need 317. 316L is what is used in pharmaceutical manufacturing. Buy you a set of benders, some 1/4” or 3/8” OD tubing, and some swagelok nuts/ ferrules. You don’t need all those elbow fittings. You can just make them with the tubing benders. You can make the pieces easy to disassemble and sterilize. You could set up a lab stand, and adjust the height to have the tubing go straight from the filter to the media bottle, and even add a needle valve between that you could shut off. You’ll just have to find an adapter between the tubing and hose barb on the filter

 

[OEP LABS]

You don’t need 317. 316L is what is used in pharmaceutical manufacturing. Buy you a set of benders, some 1/4” or 3/8” OD tubing, and some swagelok nuts/ ferrules. You don’t need all those elbow fittings. You can just make them with the tubing benders. You can make the pieces easy to disassemble and sterilize. You could set up a lab stand, and adjust the height to have the tubing go straight from the filter to the media bottle, and even add a needle valve between that you could shut off. You’ll just have to find an adapter between the tubing and hose barb on the filter

Sounds like someone has a weekend hobby . I checked your info and you are correct sir 316L is a top choice for filtering testosterones media. I stand corrected, where i saw that article about 317L I can't remember but here is one on 316L. Plus the clamps and the PTFE paperwork to the stoppers.

We could bounce ideas around I'm just saying

 

[OEP LABS]

Pics

 

[OEP LABS]

So I’ve decided to do a little something out of the ordinary. I’m going to send samples all over the world and we shall see how this goes down with the results. Same sets will go to each facility, if they deem to accept them. Lab4tox will get some. Analiza will get the same set and Jano will get some. Chemtox will get some. Hopefully I don’t make too many waves with this crazy idea but in the end we are all about testing correct?

 

[Dial It In]

So I’ve decided to do a little something out of the ordinary. I’m going to send samples all over the world and we shall see how this goes down with the results. Same sets will go to each facility, if they deem to accept them. Lab4tox will get some. Analiza will get the same set and Jano will get some. Chemtox will get some. Hopefully I don’t make too many waves with this crazy idea but in the end we are all about testing correct?

Be interesting to see what potential differences pop up. Analiza I’ve seen in the board put some shit on it. But if 3 labs come back without much or no variation it might be a new conversation. I think the issue has been nobody did just what you are doing and sending same samples to all for results comparison.

 

[TRTSCOUT]

So I’ve decided to do a little something out of the ordinary. I’m going to send samples all over the world and we shall see how this goes down with the results. Same sets will go to each facility, if they deem to accept them. Lab4tox will get some. Analiza will get the same set and Jano will get some. Chemtox will get some. Hopefully I don’t make too many waves with this crazy idea but in the end we are all about testing correct?

BRAVO!! You are a rare bird....this is a great value to begin answering the question of what alternate testing sites might be trusted.

I am guessing you have a test documentation and data release protocol? This will be important to only drop your test protocol, sample pictures at the end of your test. Despite our crew's appreciation for your dropping intel as it comes in, thinking you might just "blow up" your market share as the awareness of your test methods and results are shared more widely among the community.

Hopefully your access to raws will increase to the limits of your production capabilities and desires....otherwise i am ready to begin the discussion about you starting a "subscription" service like boutique medicine where we pay to be part of your inner circle.....this might resolve your product volume vs customers fairness issue...either way....thanks for all you do.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

So I’ve decided to do a little something out of the ordinary. I’m going to send samples all over the world and we shall see how this goes down with the results. Same sets will go to each facility, if they deem to accept them. Lab4tox will get some. Analiza will get the same set and Jano will get some. Chemtox will get some. Hopefully I don’t make too many waves with this crazy idea but in the end we are all about testing correct?

Really interested too see how tight of a variance Analiza and Jano will come in at on the same batch of product. appreciate you doing this!

 

[Photon]

So I’ve decided to do a little something out of the ordinary. I’m going to send samples all over the world and we shall see how this goes down with the results. Same sets will go to each facility, if they deem to accept them. Lab4tox will get some. Analiza will get the same set and Jano will get some. Chemtox will get some. Hopefully I don’t make too many waves with this crazy idea but in the end we are all about testing correct?

All done blind and unlabeled please.
Without product and dose names written anywhere.

 

[Jsilk757]

All done blind and unlabeled please.
Without product and dose names written anywhere.

Yes this!!

 

[Tbaz192]

Yeah exactly.
Completely blind with zero info is the way to go.
I’ve seen posts about Analiza testing compounds and saying they’re something entirely different than what they actually were and the milligram comparison to Jano was skewed way more. It was on Meso at one time. I can’t remember what the thread was called. But it was ages ago.

Another reason Jano is superior.

 

[OEP LABS]

BRAVO!! You are a rare bird....this is a great value to begin answering the question of what alternate testing sites might be trusted.

I am guessing you have a test documentation and data release protocol? This will be important to only drop your test protocol, sample pictures at the end of your test. Despite our crew's appreciation for your dropping intel as it comes in, thinking you might just "blow up" your market share as the awareness of your test methods and results are shared more widely among the community.

Hopefully your access to raws will increase to the limits of your production capabilities and desires....otherwise i am ready to begin the discussion about you starting a "subscription" service like boutique medicine where we pay to be part of your inner circle.....this might resolve your product volume vs customers fairness issue...either way....thanks for all you do.

Thanks for words first off @TRTSCOUT , the documentation of the material is just what I've been told, nothing more. We have already seen how that played out with sustanon having nandrolonbe in the mix on the previous open day.

The access to materials is a forever ongoing process . It seems if you're not deep amongst the wolves hunting with them, you may not get lucky and hear about it. This is solely from my experience though.

More geared towards the latter of your response TRT, no I'm not gonna go private but catering to those MVP clients here would definitely be a proud moment for me, more so doing it openly as a top sponsor. While sending multiples samples across the world as a catering service for them. There's a reason Men here can buy Ferraris just to look at them and walk back inside.
One can dream right Lol. I'm still going to send those samples from end to end though.

Be interesting to see what potential differences pop up. Analiza I’ve seen in the board put some shit on it. But if 3 labs come back without much or no variation it might be a new conversation. I think the issue has been nobody did just what you are doing and sending same samples to all for results comparison.

Hopefully I don't piss off too many people it was just a wild idea but I already have all the info to send off. I may do it anyhow just for the experience

All done blind and unlabeled please.
Without product and dose names written anywhere.

Lastly then there's this info I didn't even think of. So maybe I should give them all the fair chance? Since 1 has the upper hand? Label them for the others? Possibly on the next round it would be different. Solid advice as always Photon. Definitely noted for the next round


EDIT: BUT, we still have 5-6 samples to send off that have not landed! "Big Grin smiling "!

 

[OEP LABS]

Done 5 samples paid to Lab4Tox.

5 samples to be paid for Analiza

5 samples to Jano will be paid


All 5 blind zero markings. Done and paid for.

I Called Chemtox, they never picked up will email them. Any others let me know these samples are 100% blind zero marking some days out to land. I will start preparing the paperwork.