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Ok you have my attention, so your saying maybe test the material with a GCMS rather than the finished oil?

Scoob! good to see you Sir, by the way this is material that just landed but same batch and lot number. Same look and all. Was checking with the community the best and safest route to test and analyze the material prior to use. If a finished oil GCMS sample would be compliant. Ill pull a material sample as well just in case

If you don't find anything off with the raw via raw GCMS, it's unlikely you'll find anything via oil GCMS

GCMS on finished product is usually used to find contamination that occured somehow during the brewing process.
 
I need some NPP myself. Currently running on some "emergency" NPP that no doubt has some kind of super solvent in it based on the smell. Would rather avoid. Just managed to get my hs-CRP back down to under 1.
 
If I may request Guidance/Advice Please from the Community

Jano team concluded the remaining 16% it was unbound ester and degradation. Question now

If I took an educated guess and performed a GCMS Test on the Finished Oil and also a HPLC Test for target milligram. Would a GCMS Test on the finished oil after review be enough to call the finished oil safe? Please let me know your thoughts everyone.
Unbound ester isn’t really a thing. What you likely meant is unbound hormone (free testosterone).

So, some food for thought before you brew this:

If you base your brew numbers off 84% TD, and the remaining 16% impurities are lets say 10% free testosterone and 6% misc shit, then aiming for a 500 mg/mL TD oil depot means you’ll weigh about 595 mg of powder per mL to hit your target TD.

At that point, you’re also carrying along roughly:
60 mg/mL free testosterone (595 × 0.10 ≈ 59.5 mg)

Free test is lighter (higher testosterone base per mg) and behaves differently than TD, so that extra free hormone can increase the odds of crashing and potentially PIP, depending on your solvent system and how you would already be pushing solubility at 500 mg/mL

If you are referring to free decanoic acid as "unbound ester" then that's a whole different animal.
 
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Unbound ester isn’t really a thing. What you likely meant is unbound hormone (free testosterone).

So, some food for thought before you brew this:

If you base your brew numbers off 84% TD, and the remaining 16% impurities are lets say 10% free testosterone and 6% misc shit, then aiming for a 500 mg/mL TD oil depot means you’ll weigh about 595 mg of powder per mL to hit your target TD.

At that point, you’re also carrying along roughly:
60 mg/mL free testosterone (595 × 0.10 ≈ 59.5 mg)

Free test is lighter (higher testosterone base per mg) and behaves differently than TD, so that extra free hormone can increase the odds of crashing and potentially PIP, depending on your solvent system and how you would already be pushing solubility at 500 mg/mL

If you are referring to free decanoic acid as "unbound ester" then that's a whole different animal.

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The GCMS report was showing free decanoic acid, not testosterone.
 
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Hey Pench, unrelated to upcoming opening day, any possibility of DHB in the future? I thought I saw someone say it here a while ago but haven’t heard anything since.
 
@OEP LABS hey brotha, got an email from you regarding an order, and I haven't placed one. I replied, but wanted to make sure that you got it, so you can reach out to whomever it was originally intended for.
Stop using your meso handle as your email. That's how scammers get you. Only copy and paste pench's email from his posts to initiate first contact. Then you can be sure it's safe to reply when he responds.
 
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The GCMS report was showing free decanoic acid, not testosterone.
Yeah pretty much same shit that I had then on the batch I was working on. Decanoic acid, hexadecanoic acid(whatever auto library decided to call it that day:p). Either or won’t really harm you, both are fatty acids and probably around from poor clean up after synthesis. Decanoic acid can cause some PIP if in higher concentrations. Could always do a recryst to improve it. I did recryst on mine(more than likely the same batch). It was 81-82% to start and had the same players for impurities. Was able to reduce the impurities quite a bit with just one recryst. 93% post, so not bad for one pass. But yield was shit 50-60%. I also did not put a lot of effort into the crumbs. As I was just more experimenting. Here is the before and after GCMS and post recryst HPLC. I also fucked the TD up worse when I got it, I put it on a hot plate that I didn’t know was on and cooked the bag. So don’t know where I really started at after that bone head move. Picture in boat is what I started recryst from.
 

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Unbound ester isn’t really a thing. What you likely meant is unbound hormone (free testosterone).

So, some food for thought before you brew this:

If you base your brew numbers off 84% TD, and the remaining 16% impurities are lets say 10% free testosterone and 6% misc shit, then aiming for a 500 mg/mL TD oil depot means you’ll weigh about 595 mg of powder per mL to hit your target TD.

At that point, you’re also carrying along roughly:
60 mg/mL free testosterone (595 × 0.10 ≈ 59.5 mg)

Free test is lighter (higher testosterone base per mg) and behaves differently than TD, so that extra free hormone can increase the odds of crashing and potentially PIP, depending on your solvent system and how you would already be pushing solubility at 500 mg/mL

If you are referring to free decanoic acid as "unbound ester" then that's a whole different anima
There was no free testosterone in the GCMS Report and I did not have any pip to report the following day. I won't attempt the recrystallizing process due to the fact that there no tests to conduct if there is any solvent left behind that an individually used. I rather deal with the impurities if they are discovered not to be harmful.
 
Okay Men 6 samples' finally left 2 day express apologies on delay my favorite person had some car issues. Got her squared up, going to pay for rush delivery results and cross fingers we have the results for those 2 finished oils before the 20th Here is what was sent off below what was purchased for the samples screening. May off the TD500 in a 11ml on the 2nd round if we the results fast enough. Sample details below..

1. GCMS Screening Test Decanoate 500mg/ml and HPLC Testing
2. GCMS Screening Trestolone Ace 50mg/ml and HPLC Testing
3. Ment 100mg/ml HPLC Testing
EQ 1 HPLC Testing
EQ 2 HPLC Testing
Test Undec. HPLC Testing

The first 2 samples I did not have purity reports the reason i screen the finished oil prior to any one using i. This was at least we can screen the finished product thoroughly to make sure it is completely safe. The remaining we did perform purity checks
 
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