You assume this is the only site out there right? Again not defending him but again, you assume this is the only site LP's on? I am telling you that there are a lot of scammers out there...right??? right! Well, I have credible, CREDIBLE PERSON, that I need permission to let you know what organization he is from, that he gets his raws form LP..same raws used in quite a few UGL's here in the US. I assume, this I am not positive on, but LP needs to be careful, because there prices are bar none the best I have seen and if they are supplying raws and competing with the same folks they supply the raws too, why would you shop anywhere else. I have been waiting for someone to do just this and do it professionally (ie: website, communication etc.) Stop attacking me...you act like I am a rep...I AM NOT! I am on PM, and a paying site $14.99 a month (Source Check)....I believe these guys could be the ones to bridge us direct and cut out the scamming, bunk producing motherfuckers out there. I will post pics and results....ON ALL THE SITES....you can make up your mind then. Im trying to help...where do you get that I am not!!
Let me first say thay this has been a long fucking day. My girl and are finally laying it down. I slept a few hrs last night ran around when I wasn't working and fit in about 35 min of bar work. Pull ups and dips.
I enjoy my work. It's me and my laptop or tablet and I can work from home or a table in bar a friend owns or just about anywhere I fucking please. I know many of you off the board in one capacity or another.
When I'm online and visiting the 4 sites I'm a presence I find myself moving quickly to get here. I haven't had a chance to check in on this thread much...here goes.
Canesfan and oneswolebro, IMO, are affiliated with legend in some capacity. Exactly how isn't importand and I couldn't care less. What's important is simply knowing they are.
I know legend is elsewhere on other boards from what I understand. Canesfan is talking slick to a member that has picked up the scent of something being not quite right. My dowsing stick starts zeroing in on these 2 as well.
Canes, your argument that u aren't a rep or affiliated in some way is somehow made stronger because u aren't relegated to one board and u will run your mouth at every board they are on is exactly what a shill, rep, or a groupie would do. Your claim to have some inside info about these guys helps solidify the position the member you cracked wise to Is taking and mine as well.
Let me clear things up a bit for any of the new guys that are listening to you and if by some reason that u really believe the shit coming out of your mouth set u straight as well.
Your assertion that legend is supplying raws to a large number of UGL's is absolutely false. They aren't major players. If I was to compare legend to the way MLB and the big leagues to AAA to AA and A ball. They are at best a AAA ball club. I'm assuming in your position you know the big shots in your field. None of them are here. A couple may be at PM. Legend isn't one of them. Having the lowest prices on vials of gear has nothing to do with any lab being a powder supplier and being a supplier it's cheaper for them and therefor they can charge less.
All of these labs are working off huge margins. They have their equipment. They mix up some test and some tren, deca and whatever. The cost of a vial of test prop for the largest volume producer down to the smallest lab with the cook being the same guy answering emails and picking up payment and packing and shipping(a one man show) is approximately $3 as the low cost to maybe $7 on the high end.(and that's a really high cost). See what I'm getting at? Any of these labs could charge $18 for a vial or prop and still have a huge margin/markup. It's not the case that legend is ABLE to come in the lowest. They all could.
Your theory, lie, or story that there are just a few raw suppliers that are supplying most of the UGL;s is not true and is not an accurate description of how things work in the ugl world. If it was, it would be ridiculous for you to say that legend is the big player controlling costs for all because they control the costs to the ugl's who in turn based on their costs charge us.
A more accurate description of what goes on for the big boy...the HIGH volume vendors(not legend and not any of the guys here(naps excluded and excluding any int, source. I'm talking domestic labs/sources) is there being a few cooks that make thousands upon thousands of ml batches that are then sent out and bottled and labeled for sale.
An example using the international sourcre scene is UGF(undergroundfreak) and EK(euroking) being the same owner. This is the truth. When guys buy certain ugl labeled EQ or test E from EK and 2 months later buy dirt cheap EQ and Test e from UGF the could be whacking the same gear from the same batch.
The same goes on here.
There was a bust in the states a while back where a UGL was busted. The lab was resurgence(sp?). They also cooked for a large UGL(in reality a reshipper) that was also on PM and on one of the 4 boards I frequent. He was/is very popular. He has the reputation of having awesome gear. The gear was very good but his service was great and he wasn't cooking a thing. He had labels he was slapping on vials.
You guys see that this brewing isn't as easy as some would have you believe. Sure,,,astro uses a public raw source that any of you could use. But its the process of brewing and a professional presentation that sets guys apart.
Some guys have floaters. Some guys got infections. Underfilling. Standing 5 vials of test e from the same lab side by side and all 5 are filled to different levels? Amateur hour.
Some of you guys know the gear I've been running for the last yr. Some of you are even lucky enough to have some of it. That is a true pro. That's how gear should look...the level consistency is on another level.
He;s been around for more than a decade. His powder source is not legend. I can tell you that without hesitation. I gotta sleep.
I don't think we have 100% confirmation yet, at least not on these boards. But they're also on multiple other boards, and the only negative response I've seen thus far has been from Juicy... so that's a positive sign, right? I was hoping that we would get a vet try them out and give more insight, but that doesn't appear to have happened yet.
Either way, I decided to pull the trigger and will be submitting my payment tomorrow. I'll be doing the LabMax tests, bloods, etc etc. It will obviously be a while before I can do this, and I know that nothing I say will carry much weight, so I'm hoping we get some more vets to chime in asap.
This vet has spoken. I fully expect you and caned to come at me sideways. You're feeling pretty good and you both are pretty fucking cocky. That's good. I've got some time to spend on this board tomorrow, Let's have at it. See you tomorrow.